What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)
Discussion
V8mate said:
giblet said:
V8mate said:
How many times did you do that set?
Just the once as I was shattered by the endWith the weight you were using, you're not getting into muscle building territory, but it's a good, weighted exercise to improve general fitness (as part of a wider regime)
Try and do it three times though. Take a break of 3-4 mins between each set; it's only your heat rate and breathing that needs to calm; trust me, you're not physically tiring yourself.
Halb said:
Yes, most of which come from exercise. YOu had a shoulder injury right? Heavy deadlifts combined with shoulder girdle exercise may have prevented this?
tendons, mobility, proprioception, balance are all enhanced with what we're talking about.
Not being thrown in judo might have helped more.... tendons, mobility, proprioception, balance are all enhanced with what we're talking about.
giblet said:
V8mate said:
giblet said:
V8mate said:
How many times did you do that set?
Just the once as I was shattered by the endWith the weight you were using, you're not getting into muscle building territory, but it's a good, weighted exercise to improve general fitness (as part of a wider regime)
Try and do it three times though. Take a break of 3-4 mins between each set; it's only your heat rate and breathing that needs to calm; trust me, you're not physically tiring yourself.
Re additional weight: absolutely. You'll very quickly find that the first set disappears without troubling you; that's the time to increase the weight. Every set should challenge you, not just the last one. And if you're struggling, always finish the whole three sets, even if on the last set you have to dump a little of the weight.
ORD said:
I’m not aware of any health benefits to mobility and skill work. The evidence is only really there for CV fitness (and a fairly low level - not super fit) and resistance training (also to a fairly low level - not super strong).
As long as you’re not horribly unfit or weak, the reality is that you’re training because you like being and feeling fit and strong. It’s not going to make you live forever or anything like that.
My personal bias is that mobility is dramatically overrated. I’ve felt vastly better since I became less stretchy.
I'm not talking about extreme Yogi flexibility. I mentioned mobility. As long as you’re not horribly unfit or weak, the reality is that you’re training because you like being and feeling fit and strong. It’s not going to make you live forever or anything like that.
My personal bias is that mobility is dramatically overrated. I’ve felt vastly better since I became less stretchy.
I'm talking about being able to move smoothly and in control, being able to stand up, carry things, climb over things etc.
Why does everything need to become polarised?
I'm not adopting a religious position in the church.
Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 9th January 13:20
Training going really well, beating the log book on a regular basis, been throwing in some deload weeks (about once a month) and they’ve really helped me push things forward, really pigged out at Xmas, weight went up to 218lb, now down to 210lb and feeling much better! Doing about 4 quality bike sessions a week so the cardio is ticking along nicely.
didelydoo said:
biggbn said:
Thinking of giving up weight training after all these years, I am not enjoying not being strong, and do not feel I can dedicate enough time to get strong again. Not enjoying the weight training I have been messing about with, so it all feels a little pointless just now. Thinking of giving up gym membership and going over to cardio/running/bodweight stuff...
There's no reason you can't continue to lift heavy in to your twilight years, you just have to adapt- accept that things take longer- recovery, strength gains, injury is more likely, you can't push like you used to.Adjust, adapt, continue- you can gain, and maintain strength without killing yourself in the gym. The past few months you seem to have hopped around various programs and plans, without settling, and the result has been that you've lost strength. I mentioned a while back that the best way to maintain strength on a cut, is to keep doing what got you strong in the first instance- you've been doing the opposite- high rep stuff, GVT and similar. Connective tissue in older people just won't take that, and injuries will appear- which seems to be what's happened. As a result, you've become disheartened, to the point you want to stop.
Just go back to basics, do what you used to enjoy, what made you strong- build back up, be consistent and enjoy it again!
Edit...the injury I am nursing was unconnected with training, was work related.
MC Bodge said:
My first grappling session in quite a while. No gi, so nothing to grab hold of, which was a bit tricky. Good to be back on the mat, though.
Grappling of any kind is superb training, once this elbow injury allows am going to give bjj a go, am a dan grade judoka from about a hundred years ago, and not been on a mat since a no gi grappling contest about eight years ago, but would be good to see the differences and similarities. Thanks to the messages of encouragement in here...and from my Mrs...just been to gym. Did brief all over session, legs up to 420kg leg press X 10, Smith machine squats only 50kg per side X 10, low pulley pulls up to stack x12, t bar machine rows 75kg X 6 , straight bar curls sets of 6 from 10kg to 40kg, lat raises up to 12kg only set of 10, low incline fly's up to 30kg X 10 (awkward getting them in position with dodgy elbow) As expected, upper body strength pretty woeful, but as others have suggested it's a build point. Will return tomorrow for deadlifts and core. No pressing for time being, it's simply impossible)
500lbs/227.5kg for 7 on the safety squat today- https://www.instagram.com/p/B7LErXqjQrB/?igshid=15...
Surprised myself, as I’m dieting. Wanted 10 tbh.... but meh
Surprised myself, as I’m dieting. Wanted 10 tbh.... but meh
didelydoo said:
500lbs/227.5kg for 7 on the safety squat today- https://www.instagram.com/p/B7LErXqjQrB/?igshid=15...
Surprised myself, as I’m dieting. Wanted 10 tbh.... but meh
Good effort manSurprised myself, as I’m dieting. Wanted 10 tbh.... but meh
Halb said:
MC Bodge said:
My first grappling session in quite a while. No gi, so nothing to grab hold of, which was a bit tricky. Good to be back on the mat, though.
You training for your forays in the royal thread? biggbn said:
Grappling of any kind is superb training, once this elbow injury allows am going to give bjj a go, am a dan grade judoka from about a hundred years ago, and not been on a mat since a no gi grappling contest about eight years ago, but would be good to see the differences and similarities.
I had to give up judo due to finger problems (exacerbated by the gi grip fighting). Judo rules seemed to be getting narrower.
As you probably know, BJJ is old style Judo Newaza (it should have been called Gracie Judo) and, in competition, has its own ruleset and different scoring. It relies a lot on guard.
I'm just doing some fairly general submission grappling for MMA (with no intention to compete at MMA) and will try different clubs.
In and out in 35 mins tonight but went. Stiff leg/romanian kinda hybrid, up to 160 X 8, felt more uncomfortable than heavy after sometime long out, then five sets of horizontal leg raises and some other core work. Got for a gentle jog earlier to, maybe couple of miles...gonna monitor knee pain with this though
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7LkcfuAArw/?utm_sourc...
A bit of progress.
First video is 205kg on the 11th January 2019, i failed 210 straight after this so 205 was a true max for me at the time.
Second video is 242.5kg on the 11th January 2020, i successfully did 250kg just after which moved just as well. Goal is to do 255 this week with having a shot at 260kg all going well just after.
A 45kg+ increase in my max deadlift over the space of 1 year and a massive improvement in technique, much smoother off the ground and not try to jerk it up. Expectations for this year are to see how close i can get to 300kg.
In same time period, i've gone from a 130kg Squat to 192.5kg, with a look at attempting 200kg this week and i've gone from 140kg bench to 155kg, with the look at doing either 157.5 or 160kg this week as well. I'm also signed up for my second powerliftering meet, first federation meet, at the end of March with the BPU and hoping to have jumped at minimum over 100kg on my total in a year between my first meet to my second meet.
A bit of progress.
First video is 205kg on the 11th January 2019, i failed 210 straight after this so 205 was a true max for me at the time.
Second video is 242.5kg on the 11th January 2020, i successfully did 250kg just after which moved just as well. Goal is to do 255 this week with having a shot at 260kg all going well just after.
A 45kg+ increase in my max deadlift over the space of 1 year and a massive improvement in technique, much smoother off the ground and not try to jerk it up. Expectations for this year are to see how close i can get to 300kg.
In same time period, i've gone from a 130kg Squat to 192.5kg, with a look at attempting 200kg this week and i've gone from 140kg bench to 155kg, with the look at doing either 157.5 or 160kg this week as well. I'm also signed up for my second powerliftering meet, first federation meet, at the end of March with the BPU and hoping to have jumped at minimum over 100kg on my total in a year between my first meet to my second meet.
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