Vaccine side effects
Discussion
Ashfordian said:
dr_gn said:
Lotobear said:
I had the AZ vaccine at 8:50am Wednesday morning, felt a little odd by lunchtime and worked through but by evening I felt bloody awful - stomach cramps, feeling sick, incessant flatulence, aches and shooting pains, thudding headache, cold then sweats then repeat. Could not get warm and so went to bed with paracetamol and woke around 1:00am then could not sleep or stay warm for rest of night.
I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
dr_gn said:
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?
Yes, seriously - we all face the risk of death every day and the possibility of death from Covid is statistically so small as to make it an irrelevance to me. I'm not anti vax but unless it's convenient and the side effects tolerable I may choose not to take it again.Some will assess it differently of course and I respect that but ultimately everyone is free to make their own choice according to how they view it.
Lotobear said:
dr_gn said:
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?
Yes, seriously - we all face the risk of death every day and the possibility of death from Covid is statistically so small as to make it an irrelevance to me. I'm not anti vax but unless it's convenient and the side effects tolerable I may choose not to take it again.Some will assess it differently of course and I respect that but ultimately everyone is free to make their own choice according to how they view it.
Lotobear said:
dr_gn said:
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?
Yes, seriously - we all face the risk of death every day and the possibility of death from Covid is statistically so small as to make it an irrelevance to me. I'm not anti vax but unless it's convenient and the side effects tolerable I may choose not to take it again.Some will assess it differently of course and I respect that but ultimately everyone is free to make their own choice according to how they view it.
For me it's absolutely crazy not to have it, just because you've had a couple of days feeling off.
Monkeylegend said:
The one interesting side effect for, me which happened about 4 weeks after my first jab, is that I felt compelled to sell all my current cars and replace with new to me cars.
Apart from that I have had no other side effects whatsoever. I am looking forward to my second jab in May.
Awesome. What are you planning to buy this time? Apart from that I have had no other side effects whatsoever. I am looking forward to my second jab in May.
dr_gn said:
Lotobear said:
dr_gn said:
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?
Yes, seriously - we all face the risk of death every day and the possibility of death from Covid is statistically so small as to make it an irrelevance to me. I'm not anti vax but unless it's convenient and the side effects tolerable I may choose not to take it again.Some will assess it differently of course and I respect that but ultimately everyone is free to make their own choice according to how they view it.
For me it's absolutely crazy not to have it, just because you've had a couple of days feeling off.
dr_gn said:
The risk of death to you might be irrelevant, but what about everyone else you come into contact with? You're ignoring all the scientists and health professionals advocating getting vaccinated? Why do you think they're all saying everyone should get the jab?
For me it's absolutely crazy not to have it, just because you've had a couple of days feeling off.
That's all fine by me - you have it by all means, however I will make my own decision on whether to have it again.For me it's absolutely crazy not to have it, just because you've had a couple of days feeling off.
You appear to have a very skewed view of risk if I may say so, I imagine you find the process of day to day living a bit of a struggle.
deckster said:
Monkeylegend said:
The one interesting side effect for, me which happened about 4 weeks after my first jab, is that I felt compelled to sell all my current cars and replace with new to me cars.
Apart from that I have had no other side effects whatsoever. I am looking forward to my second jab in May.
Awesome. What are you planning to buy this time? Apart from that I have had no other side effects whatsoever. I am looking forward to my second jab in May.
paulguitar said:
I think the evidence that masks do much good is tenuous, but surely we have considerable positive evidence regarding vaccines?
A university in Japan did tests with masks using the actual coronavirus and found that the right type of mask was effective.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTRtFsHRdw8
ElectricSoup said:
You know getting vaccinated is about other people's safety as well as yours, right? You do care about the former as well as the latter I assume? I'm sure you'd be happy to tolerate some minor discomfort every now and again help make sure more vulnerable people than you are best protected, right? of course you are, because we treat others as we would have them treat us in this great British, Christian-based culture we are so proud of. Glad we cleared that up.
Sorry, I missed this one before and almost took a parrot - chapeau Sir!Lotobear said:
dr_gn said:
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?
Yes, seriously - we all face the risk of death every day and the possibility of death from Covid is statistically so small as to make it an irrelevance to me. I'm not anti vax but unless it's convenient and the side effects tolerable I may choose not to take it again.Some will assess it differently of course and I respect that but ultimately everyone is free to make their own choice according to how they view it.
I accept that "bad reaction to vaccine" does not equate to "worse reaction to covid", but it is unwise to underestimate the s
t viruses can wreak on us, they are clever little fkers. Genuinely (having suffered some bad viral infections in the past) , I'd take it as a warning.As per my own reaction to my first AV jab on Wednesday, I felt slightly below par on Thursday and, this afternoon, I noticed some bruising on my forearm. When I was younger, I'd have put that down to a random UDI, but as I haven't been drunk for years, I did a quick Google search on "bruise on arm, imminent death" but nothing conclusive came up.
mybrainhurts said:
Latest data from the government yellow card reporting scheme.
Don't come back at me, I've not thought about the article, just presenting the numbers extracted therein for you lot to mull over.
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Could you link to grown-up sources rather than something called 'The Daily Expose'?Don't come back at me, I've not thought about the article, just presenting the numbers extracted therein for you lot to mull over.
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paulguitar said:
mybrainhurts said:
Latest data from the government yellow card reporting scheme.
Don't come back at me, I've not thought about the article, just presenting the numbers extracted therein for you lot to mull over.
come in
Could you link to grown-up sources rather than something called 'The Daily Expose'?Don't come back at me, I've not thought about the article, just presenting the numbers extracted therein for you lot to mull over.
come in
The emphasis might be suspect, but the data are there, use your own intellect to assess its relevance.
smn159 said:
mybrainhurts said:
If only they'd completed those phase 4 trials before rollout, eh?https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinical-trials/
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