Dentists UK or Abroad?
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prg1 said:
It is depressing reading these threads as what to some people feel of the profession in this country.
I do not really think we could be much more regulated.
From what I understand we are looking like getting revalidation too.
Does it mean that questions are being asked about the fairness of the pricing of dental treatments?
037 said:
prg1 said:
It is depressing reading these threads as what to some people feel of the profession in this country.
I do not really think we could be much more regulated.
From what I understand we are looking like getting revalidation too.
Does it mean that questions are being asked about the fairness of the pricing of dental treatments?
NHS prices are the same which ever practice you go to. Private practice fees vary just like with any other service.
Thanks
UK dentists are up there with the best of them. Is it fair that the NHS pick up the bill for people neglecting thier teeth for years? My wife had to treat a guy the other day who had used salt water to bush his teeth for the last 20 years! he had only 3 of his own teeth left.
It is depressing reading these threads as what to some people feel of the profession in this country.
I do not really think we could be much more regulated.
From what I understand we are looking like getting revalidation too.Hi all, what does 'revalidation' mean in terms of dentistry?
Does it mean that questions are being asked about the fairness of the pricing of dental treatments?No. It is the introduction of frequent checks to see if the dentist is up to the job. A good thing, but yet another layer of regulation.
NHS prices are the same which ever practice you go to. Private practice fees vary just like with any other service.
UK dentists are up there with the best of them. Is it fair that the NHS pick up the bill for people neglecting thier teeth for years? My wife had to treat a guy the other day who had used salt water to bush his teeth for the last 20 years! he had only 3 of his own teeth left.
Rollin said:
037 said:
prg1 said:
It is depressing reading these threads as what to some people feel of the profession in this country.
I do not really think we could be much more regulated.
From what I understand we are looking like getting revalidation too.
Does it mean that questions are being asked about the fairness of the pricing of dental treatments?
NHS prices are the same which ever practice you go to. Private practice fees vary just like with any other service.
King Herald said:
037 said:
Is it fair that the NHS pick up the bill for people neglecting thier teeth for years?
Why not, they do it with the fattys, and the druggys, and the alcoholics and all. Rollin said:
As with all those groups, your NHS treatment options are reduced if your behaviour doesn't change. Same with NHS dentistry.
My nephews dentist in the UK refused to treat him any more until he improved his oral hygiene. He was about 16 and apparently his mouth was disgusting. GF had a lot of (long overdue) dental work done this year in both the UK and Croatia
Facilities were both well recommended private practices and both were to the highest standard, no issues with either
The difference was the cost, for the price of having two wisdom teeth pulled under local aneasthetic in the UK we had four visits in Zagreb to have a tooth extracted, six existing metal fillings replaced and another fitted, all with the white light activated stuff - so they look just like 100% normal teeth
I'm extremely lucky in that I've never had, and if I look after them will never need, any dental work, but if I did I know where I'd be heading
Facilities were both well recommended private practices and both were to the highest standard, no issues with either
The difference was the cost, for the price of having two wisdom teeth pulled under local aneasthetic in the UK we had four visits in Zagreb to have a tooth extracted, six existing metal fillings replaced and another fitted, all with the white light activated stuff - so they look just like 100% normal teeth
I'm extremely lucky in that I've never had, and if I look after them will never need, any dental work, but if I did I know where I'd be heading
A lot of the public still see a dentist only when in pain. Treatment experience may not be as pleasant under such conditions, but if said dentist gets you out of pain, then most of the public will think their good.
Dentistry is taught to an extremely high level in the UK. There is also very heavy regulation, a shed load off red tape & we now have CQC, added to the list. Primary care trusts(PCT) are very demanding in their requirements for NHS practices & usually not very forthcoming on negotiations, basically lay the law down & can withdraw your NHS contract, so if your largely or totally NHS you can be out of business.
Problem is when the government & then locally i.e PCT want to keep on driving costs down, including in hospitals for doctors. Dentists in the NHS had new contracts forced onto them in 2006, & because it really is not working out well, new contracts are being developed again.
I have always said as soon as you start attaching set/non-flexible budgets for healthcare it will stall.
Population is increasing (more than anticipated by central govt), people are living longer, everybody wants the best treatment possible, best up to date materials, the best techniques possible and very highly trained individuals. All of this is costing a lot more year in, year out, but no increase in budgets to reflect this trend, or very slight increase but rarely does this money get to the patient, it gets soaked up by other red tape factors in the system.
So how can you drive down costs in the NHS as per govt orders, but have a public who want more, where does the extra money come from if the govt & local PCT don't want to spend anymore or can't afford it, I ask? Btw not making any excuses for anybody who has had inadequate treatment, just an opinion.
Dentistry is taught to an extremely high level in the UK. There is also very heavy regulation, a shed load off red tape & we now have CQC, added to the list. Primary care trusts(PCT) are very demanding in their requirements for NHS practices & usually not very forthcoming on negotiations, basically lay the law down & can withdraw your NHS contract, so if your largely or totally NHS you can be out of business.
Problem is when the government & then locally i.e PCT want to keep on driving costs down, including in hospitals for doctors. Dentists in the NHS had new contracts forced onto them in 2006, & because it really is not working out well, new contracts are being developed again.
I have always said as soon as you start attaching set/non-flexible budgets for healthcare it will stall.
Population is increasing (more than anticipated by central govt), people are living longer, everybody wants the best treatment possible, best up to date materials, the best techniques possible and very highly trained individuals. All of this is costing a lot more year in, year out, but no increase in budgets to reflect this trend, or very slight increase but rarely does this money get to the patient, it gets soaked up by other red tape factors in the system.
So how can you drive down costs in the NHS as per govt orders, but have a public who want more, where does the extra money come from if the govt & local PCT don't want to spend anymore or can't afford it, I ask? Btw not making any excuses for anybody who has had inadequate treatment, just an opinion.
Edited by RJJ on Sunday 4th November 17:36
MacGee said:
Most things are cheaper abroad! And it's usually sunnier too! So WTF do we tolerate the UK? I must be missing it cos half the world wants to get in!
Pretty simple I thought...Cheaper goods and services = you get paid less for goods and services
Great to visit on a UK salary but not such good value when you earn a wage in the same country
the_lone_wolf said:
Great to visit on a UK salary but not such good value when you earn a wage in the same country
It is great to live in some other countries on a UK salary. I seriously fail to comprehend how people survive on the salaries paid where I live. As a Brit, I can barely get by on my western salary, so how many families live on less than a tenth of that, I really don't know. I guess the cheap dentistry helps.
But then most locals will simply have a tooth yanked out if it gets too painful, no anaesthetic, costs about £1
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