Losing the stomach fat
Discussion
NISMOgtr said:
I don't understand this work at the expense of your health thing. You work when your young to make money at the expense of your health, then when you are old and frail, you spend that money in order to fight against the diabetes, cancer, stress etc. Why not just concentrate on your health from the start?
It's not always a choice though. If i refused to put in the hours required, then i would not last long in my job. Other people out there are willing to work harder and longer. Tough market atm.Getting back into a full-time job has taken me 3 and a half years and i'm not willing to throw it away for the sake of losing half a stone.
i'm currently looking into 'Salary Sacrifice'. The company i work for might allow me to trade 2 weeks additional annual leave for a ~3% cut in gross salary. If approved, i will have a total of 38 days annual leave.
NISMOgtr said:
Why not just concentrate on your health from the start?
Because it's taken that an acceptable work ethic in the UK involves working 9-5. Commuting with others like rats in a trap. Breathing smog. Being bombarded by a media that feeds you misinformation meaning you have to make your own mind up about some things, like fitness. Some people just can't cope with this responsibility as well. These people are mostly men and they die considerably earlier than women and of a wider range of unpleasant diseases.And now the government's going to spend billions upon billions on a new rail link just to get a minority of people to work quicker, so we can remain 'competitive'. Turn on, tune in, drop out. Man.
goldblum said:
NISMOgtr said:
Why not just concentrate on your health from the start?
Because it's taken that an acceptable work ethic in the UK involves working 9-5. Commuting with others like rats in a trap. Breathing smog. Being bombarded by a media that feeds you misinformation meaning you have to make your own mind up about some things, like fitness. Some people just can't cope with this responsibility as well. These people are mostly men and they die considerably earlier than women and of a wider range of unpleasant diseases.And now the government's going to spend billions upon billions on a new rail link just to get a minority of people to work quicker, so we can remain 'competitive'. Turn on, tune in, drop out. Man.
As for the concentrating on health, depends on what exactly is meant by health. There's a touch more to it than sub 10% bf, big lifts etc.
DukeDickson said:
As for the concentrating on health, depends on what exactly is meant by health.
I can give you numerous accepted definitions if you'd like,this is a relatively contemporary one : “A state of complete physical, mental and social well being, not merely the absence of disease or infirmity” (WHO, 2011).
DukeDickson said:
There's a touch more to it than sub 10% bf, big lifts etc.
Has someone said otherwise?
Less Carbs (potato,pasta,rice,crisps)
Less Fat (sugar,chocolate,cakes,biscuits)
More Protein (milk,chicken,tuna,salmon)
More Fruit and Veg
Take the stairs 2 at a time,walk the dog longer,walk to shop,have longer sex sessions,chase the kids around,
Less Fat (sugar,chocolate,cakes,biscuits)
More Protein (milk,chicken,tuna,salmon)
More Fruit and Veg
Take the stairs 2 at a time,walk the dog longer,walk to shop,have longer sex sessions,chase the kids around,
Edited by Muffsy on Tuesday 13th May 19:44
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I like bread, pasta and cheese way to much to want to follow a low carb/fat diet. I accept that I probably would lose weight faster by cutting out some of that stuff but that's not what I call living 
I'm running 5-10km 3 times a week and am definitely losing weight but only slowly, however for me it's more about getting fitter than losing weight.
I'm running 5-10km 3 times a week and am definitely losing weight but only slowly, however for me it's more about getting fitter than losing weight.
RizzoTheRat said:
I like bread, pasta and cheese way to much to want to follow a low carb/fat diet. I accept that I probably would lose weight faster by cutting out some of that stuff but that's not what I call living I'm running 5-10km 3 times a week and am definitely losing weight but only slowly, however for me it's more about getting fitter than losing weight.
I'm in the same situation, except gym and CV 2-3 times a week. Food is my only vice... I generally have what is a decent diet, and avoid most rubbish and processed food, but life is about a compromise so to me, I'd get the Ar$e with the whole thing after a week and become couch potato without some things.. That list in the previous post is laughable, no way could I follow that, and would and couldn't stomach many items on it... I'm running 5-10km 3 times a week and am definitely losing weight but only slowly, however for me it's more about getting fitter than losing weight.H22observer said:
Does a long term high-protein/lo-carb diet have any negative health effects (other than piles) ?
Is there any evidence linking it to liver/kidney problems and/or bowel cancer?
Not sure about the evidence, but I have been warned by one doctor about potential kidney issues whereas another who uses one himself said it's fine. Piles, however, are not an issue if you firstly use dietary fibre and secondly use more salt to retain water.Is there any evidence linking it to liver/kidney problems and/or bowel cancer?
I personally have been cycling a ketogenic diet with some success, though have resorted to professional advice because it was only taking me so far.
When I have had contact with the medical profession no tests have come back with indicators suggesting my diet is doing any harm and I have used it on and off for a while.
I have only heard 'the media' imply that the protein may be a problem for those with kidney weakness/issues. Of course, sharks with frickin' laser beams and roller skates may be a problem for slow moving men going down the shops, but I haven't changed my diet to counter that either.
Personally I suspect 'the media' are paid to tell us what their advertisers want us to eat. With sugar on.
Personally I suspect 'the media' are paid to tell us what their advertisers want us to eat. With sugar on.
Hoofy said:
I read somewhere "excessive protein" is 600g a day. That's 40 chicken drumsticks. 
Can't see why piles would be a symptom of a high protein diet, either. Low fibre and low fluids cause constipation not high protein.
It's mainly low carb where the problems comes in, because carbs are where most fibre comes from. Can't see why piles would be a symptom of a high protein diet, either. Low fibre and low fluids cause constipation not high protein.
Eleven said:
Hoofy said:
I read somewhere "excessive protein" is 600g a day. That's 40 chicken drumsticks.
Can't see why piles would be a symptom of a high protein diet, either. Low fibre and low fluids cause constipation not high protein.
It's mainly low carb where the problems comes in, because carbs are where most fibre comes from. Can't see why piles would be a symptom of a high protein diet, either. Low fibre and low fluids cause constipation not high protein.
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