What training are you doing/have done today?

[TheBALDpuma]

didelydoo said:

I don't think you've been doing anythign wrong.... You've been dieting- when you pick the calories back up, your lifts will follow. When ever I diet, strength drops, when ever I stop, it comes back fast.

Thanks. It's just pissing me off! I think a slight change of approach might be beneficial.

[TheBALDpuma]

You use a.... Pussy pad?

[TheBALDpuma]

touche.

The retort with no comeback. A "your mum" line.

[TheBALDpuma]

mu0n said:

I've never once used a belt, gloves, chalk or straps. Are they even worth it?

Belt can be useful, but I don't like to use them as I prefer being RAW.

Gloves are for girls with moisturised hands

Chalk is an absaloute must for big lifs

Straps have their place, and I use them for some lifts where I have an issue with a nerve in my hand so struggle to hold on (only for bent over rows really these days). Don't become relient on the for grip though otherwise you'll never lift properly without them and they are cheating a bit.

[TheBALDpuma]

Good (if short) session today...

Squats
2 x 5 at 180kg
1 x 5 at 185kg

Bench press
2 x 5 at 120kg
1 x 4 at 125kg

One arm row
1 x 5 at 52kg
2 x 5 at 54.5kg

I had 400mg of caffeine pre work out, which really helped.

[TheBALDpuma]

Mojooo said:

One of the basic kettlebell exercises the turkish get up

If you need instruction then search for kettlebell rather than dumbel land you should fine something.

Who needs kettlebells...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzKKiWnyXpk

[TheBALDpuma]

Happy with todays efforts

Super light front squats to rest back and legs
3 x 5 at 70kg

Cleans - doing a weird hoppy thing where my right ankle extends first. Annoying as it seems subconcious, might be related to my back issues (on the right side). Anyway, I managed to make them a lot better. Here comes mark to tear apart my teckers

not great, but not the worst i did

better

I think I got those the right way around, my comp isn't letting me see them.

Jerks
Up to 100kg. Not great today.

Ab roll outs
3 x 12

[TheBALDpuma]

Hoofy said:

Well done. Thought you weren't going to do it for a while as you seemed to take your time psyching yourself up.

Yeah. Something I'm trying to work on. About a million tiny feet and hand changes.

[TheBALDpuma]

Hoofy said:

What's with all the noise? There's making noises and there's being a dick.

The only amusing bit is when he throws her as the guy who did it about 5400 years ago was very quiet.

It's part of two. The first one he cleans and jerks a girl. I think it's supposed to be a play and taking the piss out of boys who shout Ronnie lines, making a load of fuss in the gym to try and impress women that way - i.e. being a tool, and then throws a girl in the air. I'm fairly sure the fuss is Ironic.

[TheBALDpuma]

Mark300zx said:

In the first pull you are moving your shoulders backwards, they should be moving forwards, you are not extending/straightening your hips fully at the top of the pull and you are jumping forwards instead of backwards.

I'm not sure I totally understand. In the first pull the bar path should move slightly back as you go up, which in turn your shoulders well move back too.

I admit the extention at the top isn't perfect but it's not far off either. I think I was dropping too soon because the pull was hurting my wrist.

I don't mean to jump forward but why would you want to jump back and away from the bar?

[TheBALDpuma]

Mark300zx said:

Yes the bar trajectory moves back but your shoulders move forward, that is achieved by doing a leg press type movement with most of the weight being on the heels, so essentially all you are doing is straightening the knees.

In a way you are right the extension isn't far off, but the point of most power + acceleration is at the very top of the pull and you are losing out on 10-20 kilos by avoiding that top section.

Your bar trajectory is off which is why you are jumping forward, when the bar trajectory is correct you have to jump back to meet the bar, next video do a side on trajectory shot?

You see I disagree with your first comment. Shoulders start infront of the bar, then move with your body. If you just extend at the knees your hips rise too fast. In the first video you've posted the shoulders rise at the same time as the hips, and in the second the hips do rise faster but as you'll see in the comments, there are other liftes saying that they keep the back angle constant, which is how I've been taught too lift. It's suggested he does this because he comes from a PL background. Too different styles I guess, but I would always keep back angle constant.

As with jumping foward/back I've never attempted to move when I jump. If I do move forward a bit it's not intentional, but might be related to not getting a powerful enough transition at the top of the pull, therefore needing to move forward to catch it. TBF the chinese guy doesn't move much. Maybe half an inch.

Thanks for the advice

[TheBALDpuma]

Mark300zx said:

Shoulders starting in front of the bar is old fashioned style, but shoulders moving back is definitely poor technique, which is what I am talking about here,
shoulders start above the bar or slightly in front and move forward in the first phase.

With regard to the foot movement it is always backwards whether it is half an inch or 4 inches it is always backwards, if not, you are not lifting with a good bar trajectory.

It is not a question of style, it is current practice internationally for the best technique.

If you're maintaining a constant back angle, but with the bar moving backwards on the first pull, how do the shoulders move forward?

I wasn't neccesarily disagreeing with the jump, just saying my forward movement wasn't intentional.

[TheBALDpuma]

Mark300zx said:

Ok you keep the weight on our heels and the only thing you do is straighten your knees in a leg press style, as you lift the weight it should get closer to your shins in the first phase.

Which is what I do do

Regiment said:

Baldpuma, what shoes were you using in the video?

Adidas ones. I forget which ones exactly but they're the most readily available in the UK.

[TheBALDpuma]

Regiment said:

These, the Adipower?

http://www.adidas.com/us/product/training-adipower...

Nope

Adidas Power Perfect (not sure if they are the 2s or not) http://www.milletsports.co.uk/more-sports/weightli...

Edited by TheBALDpuma on Monday 24th June 22:17

[TheBALDpuma]

didelydoo said:

I had an awesome session- C&J's with 115kg, front squats up to 2x 170kg, high hang cleans up to 3x 100kg. Everything felt dead easy- amazing the difference between evening and early morning training!

Never done the high hang cleans before, hoping they'll make me faster getting under the bar- please pull apart my technique and let me know where I could improve- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a59Ruw09J1M (ignore the lift off the ground)

Looks alright to me, although I've never seperated up to high hang cleans rather than normal hang cleans. It's almost what I'd call a drop clean, which is just where you start with full ankle extension and a big shrug and you just drop under the bar and catch, no upward movement at all. Definitely helped with my speed under the bar.

P.s. was that 100kg? Looked like it was nothing. Impressive.

[TheBALDpuma]

Argh - Struggling with DLs. Not happy. I am 86.5kg now though, and I was 93kg not very long ago at all. So getting leaner!

DLs
1 x 5 at 205kg
2 x 4 at 205kg

Bench Press
2 x 5 at 120kg
1 x 4 at 125kg

RDL
3 x 5 at 175kg

BOR
3 x 5 at 145kg

[TheBALDpuma]

Oly day...

Easy back rest front squats
3 x 5 at 80kg

Cleans up to 110kg

Strict press
2 x 3 at 75kg

Jerks
up to 100kg for singles. Not too heavy but form is poor. Need to work on these.

[TheBALDpuma]

Great session this evening...

Squats
1 x 5 at 180kg
2 x 5 at 185kg

Dips
2 x 5 at 55kg
1 x 5 at 60kg

Chins
1 x 5 at 25kg
2 x 5 at 30kg

Shoulder press - bit nackered at this point. Not a great effort.
2 x 4 at 70kg
1 x 3 at 40kg

[TheBALDpuma]

smiffy180 said:

I'm catching up to you on squats! That's my summer aim

Was 190kg for 1 rep? My best is probably my 3 rep at 200kg, as I've only one repped 202.5kg but feel I could defo doa fair bit more than that now.

What's your body weight now?

Haha, I hope I can keep progressing. After my holidaty (2 weeks time) I'm dropping reps to 3 reps. Looking forward to that, 5 is too many

[TheBALDpuma]

smiffy180 said:

Yes 1 rep, I've only been squatting for 15 months though vs your..... well you are old
It's 144kg now. I'm hoping it's muscle I'm packing on as I've upped protein to 400g and carbs reduced at around 250g

Ha, I've been squatting for years but I'm not all that old. I always think it's weird talking to people on forums because you kind of get to know them but often still know nothing about them. I'm 25 btw.