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simoid said:
Just pointing out the obvious counter opinion to which you seem oblivious.
Now, anyone fancy some Scotland chat, or are we happy continuing with Rangers?
What exactly is the counter opinion? Who has given this counter opinion? Now, anyone fancy some Scotland chat, or are we happy continuing with Rangers?
Are you trying to suggest the ref thinks it wasn't a red? That would be jumping to conclusions.
If that is your point, I am sure you realise there is a big difference between the ref not thinking it was red and not seeing the incident well enough to make a decision? He didn't even give a foul or warning, but if he didn't see he can't make a call. If he did see it how could he not take some action?
It was 100% a red card without debate. The person on the panel who thinks it wasn't isn't fit to be on the panel.
Driver101 said:
What exactly is the counter opinion? Who has given this counter opinion?
Are you trying to suggest the ref thinks it wasn't a red? That would be jumping to conclusions.
If that is your point, I am sure you realise there is a big difference between the ref not thinking it was red and not seeing the incident well enough to make a decision? He didn't even give a foul or warning, but if he didn't see he can't make a call. If he did see it how could he not take some action?
It was 100% a red card without debate. The person on the panel who thinks it wasn't isn't fit to be on the panel.
You could literally argue with yourself about Rangers and the SFA Are you trying to suggest the ref thinks it wasn't a red? That would be jumping to conclusions.
If that is your point, I am sure you realise there is a big difference between the ref not thinking it was red and not seeing the incident well enough to make a decision? He didn't even give a foul or warning, but if he didn't see he can't make a call. If he did see it how could he not take some action?
It was 100% a red card without debate. The person on the panel who thinks it wasn't isn't fit to be on the panel.
I’ll just leave you to it.simoid said:
You could literally argue with yourself about Rangers and the SFA I’ll just leave you to it.
I'm having a go at you. You speak in riddles at times, make daft points, and then try to deflect. I’ll just leave you to it.Maybe stop with the daft excuses and if you're going to make a point actually say it.
Driver101 said:
I'm having a go at you. You speak in riddles at times, make daft points, and then try to deflect.
Maybe stop with the daft excuses and if you're going to make a point actually say it.
Sorry if I’m too subtle for you. Here’s my point:Maybe stop with the daft excuses and if you're going to make a point actually say it.
You are under the impression it was 100% undoubtedly a red card. You’re wrong.
Similarly, you think Morelos against Aberdeen* was 100% a red card. You’re wrong on that too.
If they were 100% reds, they’d be suspended, but there’s obviously some doubt been presented. Just let it go, man. It’s not a healthy obsession about Rangers’ referees you have.
simoid said:
Sorry if I’m too subtle for you. Here’s my point:
You are under the impression it was 100% undoubtedly a red card. You’re wrong.
Similarly, you think Morelos against Aberdeen* was 100% a red card. You’re wrong on that too.
If they were 100% reds, they’d be suspended, but there’s obviously some doubt been presented. Just let it go, man. It’s not a healthy obsession about Rangers’ referees you have.
Subtle? You are under the impression it was 100% undoubtedly a red card. You’re wrong.
Similarly, you think Morelos against Aberdeen* was 100% a red card. You’re wrong on that too.
If they were 100% reds, they’d be suspended, but there’s obviously some doubt been presented. Just let it go, man. It’s not a healthy obsession about Rangers’ referees you have.
You have moved the goalposts again and not addressing the point you've been asked again.
I really love that 100% logic after all that has been said this season. It's one of the most ironic things I've ever read. Clearly you won't be in a position to question any decision ever again.
Try another defence than the obsession card. You've burned that out too often when you can't justify yourself.
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 4th September 23:41
Driver101 said:
Subtle?
You have moved the goalposts again and not addressing the point you've been asked again.
I really love that 100% logic after all that has been said this season. It's one of the most ironic things I've ever read. Clearly you won't be in a position to question any decision ever again.
Try another defence than the obsession card. You've burned that out too often when you can't justify yourself.
What’s yer question(s)? You have moved the goalposts again and not addressing the point you've been asked again.
I really love that 100% logic after all that has been said this season. It's one of the most ironic things I've ever read. Clearly you won't be in a position to question any decision ever again.
Try another defence than the obsession card. You've burned that out too often when you can't justify yourself.
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 4th September 23:41
anyway- scotland national team......
women qualified for the world cup. great result, great achievement. hopefully a sign that things are on the up for scottish football.
mens team: friendly against belgium on friday and first 'nations league' game against albania on monday night. going to both games, hopefully friday night is not a disaster, we really need to get a win against albania. seems like we have a reasonable squad pulled together, a lot of younger guys that can hopefully gel over a qualifying campaign or 2.
also andy robertson being made captain, think this was the right decision. he's playing at one of the biggest clubs in the premier league regularly, played in big games, played in a champions league final..... well deserved and hopefully can fill this role for a good few years!
women qualified for the world cup. great result, great achievement. hopefully a sign that things are on the up for scottish football.
mens team: friendly against belgium on friday and first 'nations league' game against albania on monday night. going to both games, hopefully friday night is not a disaster, we really need to get a win against albania. seems like we have a reasonable squad pulled together, a lot of younger guys that can hopefully gel over a qualifying campaign or 2.
also andy robertson being made captain, think this was the right decision. he's playing at one of the biggest clubs in the premier league regularly, played in big games, played in a champions league final..... well deserved and hopefully can fill this role for a good few years!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45409767
Talking of referees: any word on this one!? Thistle score from a corner, so they get awarded a throw in 50 yards away...
Talking of referees: any word on this one!? Thistle score from a corner, so they get awarded a throw in 50 yards away...
Driver101 said:
No action to be taken against McGregor for his kick. The panel has three members and the decision has to unanimous to proceed.
I've not heard one person think it was anything other than a red card. The only justification anyone put forward to excuse the Moreloss kick was it was retaliation. This time there is no excuse.
Then the guy at Kilmarnock got sent off last week when going for the ball, nobody thought it was a red, but his red card appeal was thrown out.
Two clear red cards and both ignored or overturned to benefit Rangers. Serious questions need to be aimed at the panel.
Dons red card appeal failed, yet pictures clearly show Kilmarnock player pulling at Devlins shirt prior to any offence and most likely cover coming from Logan.I've not heard one person think it was anything other than a red card. The only justification anyone put forward to excuse the Moreloss kick was it was retaliation. This time there is no excuse.
Then the guy at Kilmarnock got sent off last week when going for the ball, nobody thought it was a red, but his red card appeal was thrown out.
Two clear red cards and both ignored or overturned to benefit Rangers. Serious questions need to be aimed at the panel.
SFA panel are beginning to embarrass themselves with their decisions.
tighnamara said:
Driver101 said:
No action to be taken against McGregor for his kick. The panel has three members and the decision has to unanimous to proceed.
I've not heard one person think it was anything other than a red card. The only justification anyone put forward to excuse the Moreloss kick was it was retaliation. This time there is no excuse.
Then the guy at Kilmarnock got sent off last week when going for the ball, nobody thought it was a red, but his red card appeal was thrown out.
Two clear red cards and both ignored or overturned to benefit Rangers. Serious questions need to be aimed at the panel.
Dons red card appeal failed, yet pictures clearly show Kilmarnock player pulling at Devlins shirt prior to any offence and most likely cover coming from Logan.I've not heard one person think it was anything other than a red card. The only justification anyone put forward to excuse the Moreloss kick was it was retaliation. This time there is no excuse.
Then the guy at Kilmarnock got sent off last week when going for the ball, nobody thought it was a red, but his red card appeal was thrown out.
Two clear red cards and both ignored or overturned to benefit Rangers. Serious questions need to be aimed at the panel.
SFA panel are beginning to embarrass themselves with their decisions.
The Scotish government are introducing a law to criminalise parents for smacking children but the panel thought that wasn't enough for a red card!
The SFA panel have created a right mess for themselves. Without coming out holding thier hands up that they have made mistakes (and there is no way they will) the precedent has now been set. Any player done for kicking out now will come out and say they havn’t been treated consistently. As ever, Scottish football creates an issue where none needs to exist.
tighnamara said:
Dons red card appeal failed, yet pictures clearly show Kilmarnock player pulling at Devlins shirt prior to any offence and most likely cover coming from Logan.
SFA panel are beginning to embarrass themselves with their decisions.
In the video it's clear as day Brophy pulled Devlin's shirt first. There was minimal contact in reverse and certainly not enough to go down. SFA panel are beginning to embarrass themselves with their decisions.
He was last man, but it is really a clear goal scoring chance? I'm not too sure about that.
The last few weeks hasn't half brought confusion into the game with wildly differing rules applied. Killie were the victims last week and Aberdeen this week.
abzmike said:
The SFA panel have created a right mess for themselves. Without coming out holding thier hands up that they have made mistakes (and there is no way they will) the precedent has now been set. Any player done for kicking out now will come out and say they havn’t been treated consistently. As ever, Scottish football creates an issue where none needs to exist.
Naismith potentially got away with one against Broonie too? 
In short: kicking/stamping must be allowed.
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