The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

[Driver101]

That dive by Ferguson to win the penalty in the Aberdeen game.

I would normally expect that to pulled up, but the review committee are random.

[dalzo]

Rangers game was a tough watch , absolutely turgid.
3 points and down the road is all that matters though

Did anyone see skys apology to goodwillie

[Driver101]

The entire women's team at Clyde have now taken a stand against David Goodwillie. They've all resigned now he's returned to the club.

He played there for 5 years and was promoted to team captain.

[dalzo]

North Lanarkshire council have banned goodwillie from broadwood and threatened to revoke Clydes contract at the stadium.

Virtue signaling at its very worst, guy played there for 5 years and technically hasn’t been convicted of the crime.

No fan of his but wee nippy sticking her horrid wee snout in where it doesn’t belong as usual

[Shambler]

I wonder how all these people will feel if he committed suicide.

[Drive Blind]

I'm not sure where I am with the DG situation. My view swings between he's a rapist piece of st, to he's been through 2 sets of legal proceedings and should be allowed to earn a living.

Saying that, his time in football is over. He needs to find 'normal' employment out of the spotlight.

[Driver101]

If it wasn't for Greenwood being headline news at the same time he moved to Raith I don't think the reaction would have been anywhere near what it has been.

Are all sex offenders going to be forced out of their jobs, or is this just a football thing?

It's not ok for a sexual offender to carry on their lives playing football with a bunch of men, but they'll have to get a real job working with females? He plays for Clyde. It's not a glamorous job where he's in the public eye, a role model, and will be earning a modest salary.

His career stuttered when the accusations were made. He lost his job when the civil case ruled him a rapist. He's now played for years and looked as if he'd straightened his life out and built a modest life. Everyone rounding on him years later doesn't seem fair to me.

The council banning him and refusing to renew the lease if he plays. I would be surprised if that wasn't illegal.

[abzmike]

Ukraine have now asked for the play off semi-final to be postponed.

[Edinburger]

Drive Blind said:

I'm not sure where I am with the DG situation. My view swings between he's a rapist piece of st, to he's been through 2 sets of legal proceedings and should be allowed to earn a living.

Saying that, his time in football is over. He needs to find 'normal' employment out of the spotlight.

I think most people would agree with this.

[abzmike]

Edinburger said:

Drive Blind said:

I'm not sure where I am with the DG situation. My view swings between he's a rapist piece of st, to he's been through 2 sets of legal proceedings and should be allowed to earn a living.

Saying that, his time in football is over. He needs to find 'normal' employment out of the spotlight.

I think most people would agree with this.

In the past he might have gone to the likes of Spartak Moscow to earn a few bob, that's not really an option now.

[Driver101]

Edinburger said:

Drive Blind said:

I'm not sure where I am with the DG situation. My view swings between he's a rapist piece of st, to he's been through 2 sets of legal proceedings and should be allowed to earn a living.

Saying that, his time in football is over. He needs to find 'normal' employment out of the spotlight.

I think most people would agree with this.

Why is it ok to have a normal job, but not ok to play for Clyde? Why was it ok for him to play for Clyde since 2017, but not now?

If you still think he's still a sexual predator surely you don't want him working alongside females in a normal job?

Edited by Driver101 on Friday 4th March 18:14

[Driver101]

It sounds like the Dundee game might be off tomorrow. They have a couple of positive Covid results, but have too many players deemed close contacts.

The BBC say that if players are fully vaccinated they don't require to isolate. It doesn't sound as if Dundee have a good vaccination uptake.

I know of a lot more people catching Covid recently.

[hongkongdonkey]

Driver101 said:

... and I'll expect whataboutery to deflect.

Driver101 said:

Motherwell are still owed one.

[Driver101]

hongkongdonkey said:

Driver101 said:

... and I'll expect whataboutery to deflect.

Driver101 said:

Motherwell are still owed one.

What?

[Driver101]

Celtic have to go to their bogey team tomorrow to restore their lead. A bit of pressure.

The Rangers v Aberdeen game surpassed the St Johnstone v Rangers game as the worst to watch in years. Two shots on goal in the entire game and one was a scuffed shot from 25 yards and another a fortunate goal. It was dire.

It's a strange league this season. Motherwell have taken 5 points from the last 30, but are 1 point off 4th place.

[hongkongdonkey]

A bit of a dire game today. Rangers never in danger of losing the game but did struggle to find the breakthrough. Rangers were much better second half and it was just a matter of time before they got the goal. Three points in the bag and we can look forward to this weeks European tie.

Ref was terrible again FWIW.

[Driver101]

hongkongdonkey said:

A bit of a dire game today. Rangers never in danger of losing the game but did struggle to find the breakthrough. Rangers were much better second half and it was just a matter of time before they got the goal. Three points in the bag and we can look forward to this weeks European tie.

Ref was terrible again FWIW.

It didn't look as if a goal was coming.

I shouldn't ask, but what did the referee get wrong today? I guess you'll dispute the Aberdeen manager's opinion the goal should have been disallowed?

[hongkongdonkey]

Driver101 said:

It didn't look as if a goal was coming.

You were probably watching through a poor quality stream with poor camera angles.

Driver101 said:

I shouldn't ask, but what did the referee get wrong today? I guess you'll dispute the Aberdeen manager's opinion the goal should have been disallowed?

There hasn't been as many handballs at Ibrox since the Rugby 7's were hosted there. One given out of the very nearly double figures committed. The added time seemed off in both halves. Tavs yellow was fine but if it was applied consistently then there should have been more cards earlier in the game. He let a few bad challenges go that probably deserved cards on both sides.

You guess right. It was clearly the usual case of an Aberdeen player throwing themselves to the ground whenever the opposition are within half a yard of them. In fairness to the ref he didn't fall for that for most of the game.

[Driver101]

hongkongdonkey said:

Driver101 said:

It didn't look as if a goal was coming.

You were probably watching through a poor quality stream with poor camera angles.

Driver101 said:

I shouldn't ask, but what did the referee get wrong today? I guess you'll dispute the Aberdeen manager's opinion the goal should have been disallowed?

There hasn't been as many handballs at Ibrox since the Rugby 7's were hosted there. One given out of the very nearly double figures committed. The added time seemed off in both halves. Tavs yellow was fine but if it was applied consistently then there should have been more cards earlier in the game. He let a few bad challenges go that probably deserved cards on both sides.

You guess right. It was clearly the usual case of an Aberdeen player throwing themselves to the ground whenever the opposition are within half a yard of them. In fairness to the ref he didn't fall for that for most of the game.

The goal wasn't coming. You're genuinely the only person I've heard say it was.

There was very few chances and Morelos was taken off when Rangers were desperate for a goal. Sakala was taken off earlier as he wasn't cutting it either. Two shots on target. The goal that was fortunate and a 25 yard shot that trundled through. Lewis had very little to do.

The handball that Rangers fans and players were screaming for was never a penalty. It clearly hits the stomach. Another game where fantasy handballs are claimed for.

There was two big calls in the game. The tackle on Arfield is in the orange category. His raking of the studs down the back of Ferguson's ankle off the ball was a red. Other than that there was a few silly inconsistencies like there is in every game. The commentators picked up on Ferguson being booked for blocking a freekick, but not Roofe for doing the exact same.

I'm lost with this overanalyzing how many minutes are added at the end of different games, or how many nothing challenges should be a yellow, how some teams gets more fouls per yellow card. It's tedious and doesn't tell the story that they are trying to push.

I have never seen a season of football where referees are being hounded for nothing. Fantasy incidents created and weird stats drawn out of thin air to prove something is wrong. It's out of control.

What is the deal with the special top Rangers fleeced the fans for yesterday, then didn't wear it? Looks odd they advertised it, got fans to buy it for the day, then didn't wear it. That's in bad taste they ripped the fans off.

Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 6th March 09:00

[hongkongdonkey]

Driver101 said:

The goal wasn't coming. You're genuinely the only person I've heard say it was.

You should get out more.

Driver101 said:

There was very few chances and Morelos was taken off when Rangers were desperate for a goal. Sakala was taken off earlier as he wasn't cutting it either. Two shots on target. The goal that was fortunate and a 25 yard shot that trundled through. Lewis had very little to do.

Rangers had 65% possession and 20 shots. 10 off target so 8 blocked due to the packed box. It was just a matter of time before one went in.

Driver101 said:

The handball that Rangers fans and players were screaming for was never a penalty. It clearly hits the stomach. Another game where fantasy handballs are claimed for.

There was almost double figures of handball incidents, I didn't expect the penalty claim one to be given but several of the other should have.

Driver101 said:

There was two big calls in the game. The tackle on Arfield is in the orange category. His raking of the studs down the back of Ferguson's ankle off the ball was a red. Other than that there was a few silly inconsistencies like there is in every game. The commentators picked up on Ferguson being booked for blocking a freekick, but not Roofe for doing the exact same.

I'd agree tackle by Arfield could have been a red, I thought the strike in the face of Morelos could have been a red too. That was right in front of me though and the ref didn't have a good view from his position. Maybe an orange too.

Driver101 said:

I'm lost with this overanalyzing how many minutes are added at the end of different games, or how many nothing challenges should be a yellow, how some teams gets more fouls per yellow card. It's tedious and doesn't tell the story that they are trying to push.

I have never seen a season of football where referees are being hounded for nothing. Fantasy incidents created and weird stats drawn out of thin air to prove something is wrong. It's out of control.

You started it

Driver101 said:

There was no element of soft. It just wasn't a penalty of any kind. There was a fair amount of dodgy decisions over the weekend.

Strange league so far. Hibs and Hearts are playing well, but nobody else is. Celtic need to get players back and new players fit quickly to keep in touch. They haven't managed to grind out results like Rangers although there was plenty of chances against Dundee Utd.

For all the incidents over the weekend I don't understand how Siegrist's kick on Abada got so little coverage. His leg kicked in a completely unnatural direction to stud Abada. It was a red card and it does deserve to be pulled up by the panel.

An interesting analysis on the game given it was only last week you criticised rangers fans for opinions you stated were based on poor quality streams from poor camera angles. You can't have it both ways!

Edited by hongkongdonkey on Sunday 6th March 09:47