The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

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Gone a bit AMG

6,768 posts

199 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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anniesdad said:
Gavia said:
The reality is that we’re going to have to win every single match from now til the end of the season which isn’t going to happen, as City have just set a 16 match winning streak record. Even then we need them lose four matches which is highly unlikely too.

I still think that we should play for entertainment and stop thinking about the league which is long gone. Mourinho should be trying to win the fans over and focus on other trophies.
We can't just give up. We've got to keep winning.
It'll February before Jose writes off the league. Just when the champions league starts if City maintain this gap. It's the most wide open champions league for years, let's keep winning and let Jose be Jose.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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anniesdad said:
We can't just give up. We've got to keep winning.
I’m not saying give up, as it’s long gone. I’m saying stop grinding out results whilst playing st.

I’m saying we should be trying to learn to play better as a team, rather than this dull dross that is happening too often. Play at pace, make the players run onto the ball, one touch play etc. The standing still and passing it to another player who’s stood still is st.

I’d rather lose with style than win with st football constantly. I know at times we need to grind out a result, but this is simply not the United way of playing. There needs to be an understanding of the style we expect to see.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Gavia said:
I’m not saying give up, as it’s long gone. I’m saying stop grinding out results whilst playing st.

I’m saying we should be trying to learn to play better as a team, rather than this dull dross that is happening too often. Play at pace, make the players run onto the ball, one touch play etc. The standing still and passing it to another player who’s stood still is st.

I’d rather lose with style than win with st football constantly. I know at times we need to grind out a result, but this is simply not the United way of playing. There needs to be an understanding of the style we expect to see.
yikes

7/10 on the rant scale. Good effort. hehe

However, in your last paragraph you are sounding like a Spurs fan. biggrin

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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The PL is over. Everyone knows that really.

So I do agree that Jose should focus on getting the side playing good enough football to challenge in the CL. At the moment, we are playing in a way that will win most PL games but is hopeless for aiming to win the CL.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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anniesdad said:
yikes

7/10 on the rant scale. Good effort. hehe

However, in your last paragraph you are sounding like a Spurs fan. biggrin
Maybe so, but there are a couple of teams in the PL with a tradition of playing good football. Sadly Spurs are one of them along with West Ham and they’re right that there is an expectation of playing well. Look at our goals vs Arsenal, quick one touch football and we had them rocking. Then we sat back and got torn apart. When City scores we strung a few passes together and scored almost immediately. The best defence is offence

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

140 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Gavia said:
DeltonaS said:
confused

Trouble with reality seems to be an ongoing theme at sit back United. In reality it was that prick of a manager of yours that failed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premie...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/footba...
Look out. He’s back. Early release, or just probabtion?
LOL

A pitty the subject matter somehow remains unanswered....


ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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I agree.

It’s as though nobody has told the players that if attacking for 5 minutes in total gets us 1-2 goals, attacking a bit more might get us more. We look extremely effective when we actually attack!

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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ORD said:
I agree.

It’s as though nobody has told the players that if attacking for 5 minutes in total gets us 1-2 goals, attacking a bit more might get us more. We look extremely effective when we actually attack!
We can be brilliant when we attack and atrocious when we sit back. Nobody really knows how good or bad City’s defence is because they just attack you for 90 minutes. That’s the way to win games and st your opponents up.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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anniesdad said:
Gavia said:
I’m not saying give up, as it’s long gone. I’m saying stop grinding out results whilst playing st.

I’m saying we should be trying to learn to play better as a team, rather than this dull dross that is happening too often. Play at pace, make the players run onto the ball, one touch play etc. The standing still and passing it to another player who’s stood still is st.

I’d rather lose with style than win with st football constantly. I know at times we need to grind out a result, but this is simply not the United way of playing. There needs to be an understanding of the style we expect to see.
yikes

7/10 on the rant scale. Good effort. hehe

However, in your last paragraph you are sounding like a Spurs fan.biggrin
Only a bit. They sound like that, but with 10 points less.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

140 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Alpinestars said:
anniesdad said:
Gavia said:
I’m not saying give up, as it’s long gone. I’m saying stop grinding out results whilst playing st.

I’m saying we should be trying to learn to play better as a team, rather than this dull dross that is happening too often. Play at pace, make the players run onto the ball, one touch play etc. The standing still and passing it to another player who’s stood still is st.

I’d rather lose with style than win with st football constantly. I know at times we need to grind out a result, but this is simply not the United way of playing. There needs to be an understanding of the style we expect to see.
yikes

7/10 on the rant scale. Good effort. hehe

However, in your last paragraph you are sounding like a Spurs fan.biggrin
Only a bit. They sound like that, but with 10 points less.
Add the sound below and you know how a 2017 United fan sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImibfxlWSxY

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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DeltonaS said:
Alpinestars said:
anniesdad said:
Gavia said:
I’m not saying give up, as it’s long gone. I’m saying stop grinding out results whilst playing st.

I’m saying we should be trying to learn to play better as a team, rather than this dull dross that is happening too often. Play at pace, make the players run onto the ball, one touch play etc. The standing still and passing it to another player who’s stood still is st.

I’d rather lose with style than win with st football constantly. I know at times we need to grind out a result, but this is simply not the United way of playing. There needs to be an understanding of the style we expect to see.
yikes

7/10 on the rant scale. Good effort. hehe

However, in your last paragraph you are sounding like a Spurs fan.biggrin
Only a bit. They sound like that, but with 10 points less.
Add the sound below and you know how a 2017 United fan sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImibfxlWSxY
What brings you back? You realise Maureen has made the best start we've had for a while don't you? For your purposes, read - significantly better than LVG. So you're clutching at straws.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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DeltonaS said:
Add the sound below and you know how a 2017 United fan sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImibfxlWSxY
Nobody gives a fk about your views. We could
Win every match a la City and you’d still criticise us.

True fans can have an opinion and disagree, but you're not so crawl back into your dyke and pop back at some bizarre point that suits you. Don’t forget we’re still ahead of 18 other PL clubs, and miles ahead of some of them

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Heard on the radio earlier that our current points tally would have us top in many of the previous seasons at this point. Jose has us going in the right direction, City are unfortunately on another level

Cie

18,821 posts

195 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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anonymous said:
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Yep there's no shame in coming second right now, I just wish I didn't have to get subjected to the current dross while doing it. The beginning of the season was good.

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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What I find difficult to accept is the idea that it makes any sense to sit back against bad teams. I think it maybe works OK against good sides (although the statistics don’t really back that up). But why the hell were we camped in our own half against West Brom?!

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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ORD said:
What I find difficult to accept is the idea that it makes any sense to sit back against bad teams. I think it maybe works OK against good sides (although the statistics don’t really back that up). But why the hell were we camped in our own half against West Brom?!
I didn’t watch the game so my reply is based on supposition but we had a nice 2 goal lead, they are a premier league team, capable of stepping up/adapting when needed. I guess they did a good job of that? But ultimately it was too little too late. I guess we would have hoped to hit them on the break in that situation.

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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anniesdad said:
I didn’t watch the game so my reply is based on supposition but we had a nice 2 goal lead, they are a premier league team, capable of stepping up/adapting when needed. I guess they did a good job of that? But ultimately it was too little too late. I guess we would have hoped to hit them on the break in that situation.
Nah. WB were absolutely dreadful until we sat right back. They were still fairly awful afterwards, but confidence obviously grew.

If you give any team the ball and let them make crosses and take shots, they will grow in confidence and get into their stride.

Why not just thrash them? Fergie would have told the side at half time to get another 3 goals, not to try to hang on!

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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anniesdad said:
I didn’t watch the game so my reply is based on supposition but we had a nice 2 goal lead, they are a premier league team, capable of stepping up/adapting when needed. I guess they did a good job of that? But ultimately it was too little too late. I guess we would have hoped to hit them on the break in that situation.
We were terrible in the final third in the first half, they were woeful and made no attempt to even get into our half. We scored our first with the first shot from either side in the match, that was after half an hour. Our second was a lucky deflection.

After that they were there for the taking, the normal baying Brummie crowd were silent and their heads had dropped. We came out in the second half to defend deep and hang on. We were very, very lucky that they took so long to score and we were hanging on at the end.

Whilst they are a PL team they are strong relegation candidates and the sort of team we should brush aside if we have realistic hopes of challenging for the title at some point.

It was a poor performance whichever way you cut it. I’d be happy if I saw a team playing well, but just not scoring, but we’re the opposite currently.

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I agree with all that. It was tactically insane to let that side back into it. We made a fight out of a game that was over (luckily for us given that we were 2-0 up without having played any football).

bstb3

4,171 posts

160 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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If I was being generous I'd say we were trying to game manage, to avoid spending too much energy ahead of a busy few weeks. It's just that we're crap at it. Far too many players not confident in possession meaning eventually the ball is played back to DDG for a hoof, where we lose it.

On top of that add the keystone cop defending that at times we still produce (exhibit A, their goal) and it's a recipe for disaster. Like everyone above I'd rather we just kept attacking - not because I want to see more goals as such (though I do), but just simply because we are useless at the opposite.

That said, we still have the best defensive record in the league I think, so it can't all be bad though a lot of that is down to the deity between the sticks.
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