The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

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anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Maybe...

bstb3

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160 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Difficult one for Jose yesterday. He's often said this season how unlucky we have been getting, justifiably at times - so when we get something in our favour on such an occasion it's hard for him then to start running round like a loon, especially when we played so poorly.

He knows we got out of jail yesterday, due to both Ibra and lady luck, and did his best to look 'sorry' about it. I think there is some truth too though in his comments about the relief, emotion and stress he is under. When you consider how wrong things went at Chelsea, he must have been questioning his own ability - lord knows almost everyone else was - so to have this vindication of a trophy in his first season, the first time ever for a Manchester United manager, then I can't blame him for letting it get to him.


DeltonaS

3,707 posts

140 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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bstb3 said:
Difficult one for Jose yesterday. He's often said this season how unlucky we have been getting, justifiably at times - so when we get something in our favour on such an occasion it's hard for him then to start running round like a loon, especially when we played so poorly.

He knows we got out of jail yesterday, due to both Ibra and lady luck, and did his best to look 'sorry' about it. I think there is some truth too though in his comments about the relief, emotion and stress he is under. When you consider how wrong things went at Chelsea, he must have been questioning his own ability - lord knows almost everyone else was - so to have this vindication of a trophy in his first season, the first time ever for a Manchester United manager, then I can't blame him for letting it get to him.
JM should just count himself very lucky to have a striker like Ibra on his side, the number of games he saved this season is incredible.

And concerning the rest, whoever the manager, Uniteds squad currently just doesn`t have the overall quality of those of Barcelona, Real, Bayern, Chelsea, PSG etc. And that´s probably where the extra pressure comes from, he knows he doesn´t have the best squad but the expectations are high nevertheless.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
JM should just count himself very lucky to have a striker like Ibra on his side, the number of games he saved this season is incredible.
As should any side that has a goalscorer in their side?

Luck? Bullst....teams buy goalscorers cos that's what they do.

It's not luck.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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anniesdad said:
DeltonaS said:
JM should just count himself very lucky to have a striker like Ibra on his side, the number of games he saved this season is incredible.
As should any side that has a goalscorer in their side?

Luck? Bullst....teams buy goalscorers cos that's what they do.

It's not luck.
Completely agree. How lucky we were to have Cole, Yorke, Sheringham, Solksjäer, Rudd, RVP etc.

I mean, Chelsea are so lucky to have Costa, City Aguero, Spurs Kane and so on.

XM5ER

5,091 posts

250 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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anniesdad said:
As should any side that has a goalscorer in their side?

Luck? Bullst....teams buy goalscorers cos that's what they do.

It's not luck.
I think the luck comes from the fact that he was a free agent and could have gone anywhere and that he could still play to the level that he had previously and that he would adapt to a "proper" league like the premiership. As far as I can see, the guy owns that team and they love him.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

140 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Gavia said:
anniesdad said:
DeltonaS said:
JM should just count himself very lucky to have a striker like Ibra on his side, the number of games he saved this season is incredible.
As should any side that has a goalscorer in their side?

Luck? Bullst....teams buy goalscorers cos that's what they do.

It's not luck.
Completely agree. How lucky we were to have Cole, Yorke, Sheringham, Solksjäer, Rudd, RVP etc.

I mean, Chelsea are so lucky to have Costa, City Aguero, Spurs Kane and so on.
Exactly, they make the difference not a distressed, whining manager....

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Good timing...yes, luck? Not so much.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
Exactly, they make the difference not a distressed, whining manager....
It must have cut deeply when Mourinho won that trophy yesterday mustn't it? It's the EFL cup nothing more, but still...so many have said on this thread he was past it, there's a new world order and yet, there he is lifting that cup yesterday.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
Exactly, they make the difference not a distressed, whining manager....
Didn't SAF absolutely slate his team after winning the Scottish Cup? Mourinho is paying homage to the great man and will be pissing himself laughing at the media reaction today.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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The more games we win, the luckier we are.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

140 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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anniesdad said:
DeltonaS said:
Exactly, they make the difference not a distressed, whining manager....
It must have cut deeply when Mourinho won that trophy yesterday mustn't it? It's the EFL cup nothing more, but still...so many have said on this thread he was past it, there's a new world order and yet, there he is lifting that cup yesterday.
Nope it doesn't, hope to see United winning some more....

But it's Mourinho as usual who's always complaining about how unlucky he is, blaming everyone, etc. while forgetting and ignoring the other side of the medal.

Reality is Ibra and Micky have been outstanding buys, without them things looked different now.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Trabi601

4,865 posts

97 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
Reality is Ibra and Micky have been outstanding buys, without them things looked different now.
Why do people always say stuff like this?

Did anyone think he was signing them just to make up numbers? - every player you sign is being signed because you believe they're going to be part of the jigsaw that wins stuff.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

140 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Trabi601 said:
DeltonaS said:
Reality is Ibra and Micky have been outstanding buys, without them things looked different now.
Why do people always say stuff like this?

Did anyone think he was signing them just to make up numbers? - every player you sign is being signed because you believe they're going to be part of the jigsaw that wins stuff.
But what you believe doesn't always work....

I expected Depay doing a lot better than he did for example, I didn't expect DiMaria to leave that early, Pogba is he doing as expected or should we judge him at the end of next season ? Rooney is he still delevering ? Mata ? etc.


Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
anniesdad said:
DeltonaS said:
Exactly, they make the difference not a distressed, whining manager....
It must have cut deeply when Mourinho won that trophy yesterday mustn't it? It's the EFL cup nothing more, but still...so many have said on this thread he was past it, there's a new world order and yet, there he is lifting that cup yesterday.
Nope it doesn't, hope to see United winning some more....

But it's Mourinho as usual who's always complaining about how unlucky he is, blaming everyone, etc. while forgetting and ignoring the other side of the medal.

Reality is Ibra and Micky have been outstanding buys, without them things looked different now.
LVG signed many players as well. But just didn't play them the way they should have been played.

You're also missing the bits where Maureen showed his appreciation for the goal Blackburn scored against us, the way he pats opposition players on the back etc etc. You see what you want to see.


anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
Nope it doesn't, hope to see United winning some more....

But it's Mourinho as usual who's always complaining about how unlucky he is, blaming everyone, etc. while forgetting and ignoring the other side of the medal.

Reality is Ibra and Micky have been outstanding buys, without them things looked different now.
Did you think United were lucky yesterday? I'm not sure what he should have to blame himself for yesterday? I'm just struggling to see your point here...

curlie467

7,650 posts

203 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
But what you believe doesn't always work....

I expected Depay doing a lot better than he did for example, I didn't expect DiMaria to leave that early, Pogba is he doing as expected or should we judge him at the end of next season ? Rooney is he still delevering ? Mata ? etc.

Pretty much everyone I know into football knew that Miky was the good buy and for anyone to question Ibra, we'll that's just dumb isn't it. Love him or hate him he was always going to do the business.

None of it is luck, you make your own.

franki68

10,487 posts

223 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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deltona ,seriously embarrassing yourself here.How can a manager signing a player be luck ?


Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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DeltonaS said:
But what you believe doesn't always work....

I expected Depay doing a lot better than he did for example, I didn't expect DiMaria to leave that early, Pogba is he doing as expected or should we judge him at the end of next season ? Rooney is he still delevering ? Mata ? etc.

That's why you're an armchair pundit who's finding it very hard to congratulate Maureen on turning it around in a matter of months. An admitting you were wrong.

2 pies was st for the most part, and his attitude even worse. Pog was immense yesterday and will get better and better.

Rooney has always been overrated in my view.

Mata, what about him? Far better under Maureen than LVG.
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