Steve Kean

[tobster]

Kean won't walk. The owners for a reason known only to themselves gave him a new deal a few weeks ago.

I think both Kean and the owners are out of their depth. If they saw Blackburn as an investment then they're mistaken. Jack Walker spent millions on that club and now with their lack of investment and understanding of football they're grinding the club down.

I agree the worst thing they did was get rid of big Sam, I'm not a fan of his style of football but he gets results at whatever club he manages.

I'm not a Blackburn fan but I can understand their frustration with the owners and manager. I support Spurs and we've had some shocking owners and managers in the past but luckily now have people running the club who actually run it properly.

[Fittster]

mikeyr said:

obob said:

The fans were a disgrace as I said, but if Kean had an ounce of shame he'd walk.

Why would he walk?

Honestly confused by this, he must think he's doing what he can so why would he be shamed into leaving. I'd bet he puts in as much effort as anyone else managing at that level. Whether he is any good (or that Blackburn team is any good!) is another question but not sure what "shame" has got to so with it?

Can someone explain what he did to Sam Allardyce which riled up the fans so much before he'd even started?

I'm not a Blackburn support and don't really give a stuff if they are in the perm or not.


He must know he's not good enough to keep Blackburn up, "the statistics stack up against him. Blackburn are 11 points down on their total after 17 games last season and have failed to keep a clean sheet since beating Bolton in April - their worst sequence in the top flight for 80 years."

So why does he carry on with a job it's clear he can't do? Because he want's a big cash pay off and if he resigns he will forfeit that. So he's greedy and is putting himself first (although in his shoes I'd do the same think but I'd except the fact the fans hated me).

I guess that would be determined as having no shame.

[obob]

mikeyr said:

obob said:

The fans were a disgrace as I said, but if Kean had an ounce of shame he'd walk.

Why would he walk?

Honestly confused by this, he must think he's doing what he can so why would he be shamed into leaving. I'd bet he puts in as much effort as anyone else managing at that level. Whether he is any good (or that Blackburn team is any good!) is another question but not sure what "shame" has got to so with it?

Can someone explain what he did to Sam Allardyce which riled up the fans so much before he'd even started?

Because he is way out of his depth, and his position has been untenable for several weeks now and yet he clings on like a power crazed dictator. It's a bit like Libya.

[mikeyr]

Fair enough - I just can't see that Blackburn would be doing that much better under any other manager in the price bracket. I'm no fan of them or their style - interesting piece here about their use of the long kick from Robinson...
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/11/25/goalkeeper-...

EDIT: half way down article - quote: "Incidentally, the bottom-left dot is Blackburn, who don’t have a Crouch figure but still have a goalkeeper in Paul Robinson who hits the ball long. He has the worst pass completion rate of any player in Europe’s major five leagues"

[V8TVR]

Blackburn fans never wanted Kean from the off, and vented their displeasure almost immdiately after he took over, In my opinoin blackburn fans are a disgrace. Kean is probably out of his depth, but his team are/were playing well considering the players the have.

Blackburn with a recognised manger and with crowd support would probably be sitting 6/7th from bottom "tops" and there is a chance that if the fans had got behind Kean they would possibly in that similar position.

Just my opinion but i think Blackburn fan are digging their own path to league one

[obob]

V8TVR said:

Blackburn fans never wanted Kean from the off, and vented their displeasure almost immdiately after he took over, In my opinoin blackburn fans are a disgrace. Kean is probably out of his depth, but his team are/were playing well considering the players the have.

Blackburn with a recognised manger and with crowd support would probably be sitting 6/7th from bottom "tops" and there is a chance that if the fans had got behind Kean they would possibly in that similar position.

Just my opinion but i think Blackburn fan are digging their own path to league one

Big Sam was keeping them mid table quite comfortably.

[George H]

As a Rovers fan, I don't think Steve Kean is the main problem. That lies with the owners. They sacked all the board of directors and generally know fk all about running a football club. No wonder the fans hate them.

That said, the fans aren't exactly helping, but what are they supposed to do? Sit back and act like nothing is wrong, or kick up a fuss about it and hope something changes?

[Tuvra]

George H said:

That said, the fans aren't exactly helping, but what are they supposed to do? Sit back and act like nothing is wrong, or kick up a fuss about it and hope something changes?

They cheer their team, give everything they got, before & during the game.

If the result doesn't come, then let the booing "Kean Out" rants begin...

If the Blackburn players support/like Kean, and all the fans are abusing and booing him, surely they are thinking "fk this is out of order, what a bunch of s" and then they are losing focus on the job in hand or losing the grit and determination that teams need in what has become a very competitive league.

[anonymous-user]

Graham Taylor has been very outspoken about blackburn and Keen recently, getting it absolutely spot on. The players know that any bad performaces from them will ultimately be blamed on Kean, in my opinion the players arent doing enough. Fundamentally, Blackburn's starting XI is poor, it would take a far better manager than Kean to keep them up with that curretn group of players. When Blackburn conceded on tuesday night, the fans started hurling abuse at Kean as if he had told the players to only give 50% and concede. Blackburn fans get the club they deserve.

[U T]

Blackburn fans should have a look at themselves. Their team is rubbish. Jose Mourinho would have a job to keep that shower in the Prem. Keen seems like a decent man who has them playing above themselves from what I've seen. But the fans abuse is way too much and is dragging the club down.

In one way, I hope Keen keeps them up to prove the fans wrong. On the other hand, I hope they go down as it will serve the fans right. Ideal solution if for Keen to be sacked, Blackburn go down, get a manager they want and then go down again and again, and end up in the Vauxhall Confrence, while Keen takes over at Wigan and leads them to European triumph. Yeah, that'll make me laugh.

[Allyc85]

wolves_wanderer said:

I don't understand why any football manager would quit rather than wait to be sacked. As for Blackburn, I have limited sympathy. Sacking Allardyce was moronic, the new owners don't seem to have a clue.

Totally agreed, his sacking has never made any sense!

[GLENRED]

Someone on Talksport referred to the Blackburn owners as “The 4 chickens of the Apocalypse” it did make me laugh

[U T]

I love some of the stuff people say on Talk Sport.

I remember a Liverpool fan going on about how loyal he was. So loyal, that "when you cut me, I bleed red."

And the Hibs fan who couldn't understand why Jussii Jaskerlynan wasn't getting picked in goal for Scotland. When pointed out that he was Finnish, the guy said "He's never finished, he's only 23!"

[GLENRED]

U T said:

I love some of the stuff people say on Talk Sport.

I remember a Liverpool fan going on about how loyal he was. So loyal, that "when you cut me, I bleed red."

And the Hibs fan who couldn't understand why Jussii Jaskerlynan wasn't getting picked in goal for Scotland. When pointed out that he was Finnish, the guy said "He's never finished, he's only 23!"

I do find Adrian durham fking annoying, and would never get tired of ing him

[Xeno]

Why, when contrary to normal employment, is someone who is utterly terrible at their job rewarded handsomely when they are relieved of it?

[U T]

Xeno said:

Why, when contrary to normal employment, is someone who is utterly terrible at their job rewarded handsomely when they are relieved of it?

In any job, if you are on a fixed term contract, you get paid up until the end of your contract, if they want you to go early.

Not just football, that's the same in any walk of life.

[TriumphVitesse]

The abuse that they are hurling at the manager is totally unnacceptable. Ok so He doesnt seem to have much clue but no human being deserves that level of abuse. There are plenty of useless managers (we had Steve Bruce), fortunately now gone. Did I want him out? Yes. Would I have subjected him to such abuse? No.

The problem lies with the Indian Chicken Factory (I'm sure its really hygenic!), the fans need to direct their feelings towards them instead as the whole thing has fallen apart since they took over.

Another thing is that I don't know what Blackburn expect? Some backwater Lancashire town thats down there with the Oldhams/Rochdales/Bradfords for being out & out dumps....if there was a league table for sthole towns they would be near the bottom of that as well!! When they played us I think they brought less than 200 fans...pathetic!! So, small club, small (stty) town and mong fans.....

...bye bye, you deserve to go down the way that some of you have treated Mr Keen!!

[Xeno]

U T said:

In any job, if you are on a fixed term contract, you get paid up until the end of your contract, if they want you to go early.

Not just football, that's the same in any walk of life.

Surely they put performance related clauses in there?

[phil-sti]

Kean out!!!!!

theres a protest tomorrow at brockall 9am then outside the ground at 12.

There is so much more to all of this than just "hating" Kean. the club is owned by Venkys, who rarely turn up at games. The rumours are that the club is owned by Kentaro and SME with Venkys fronting it, this doesn't even fall within the laws of the game but nobody is looking into it. Kean has connections with SME, SME where set up by Anderson, who is currently running the club!!!

it's sordid, Kentaro are just bringing players the represent into blackburn, taking the fee's then selling them on and taking the transfer fees.

[ClintonB]

phil-sti said:

Kean out!!!!!

theres a protest tomorrow at brockall 9am then outside the ground at 12.

Is this going to be one of those protest/marches where a bunch of fans walk from a pub they were going to be at anyway to a match they were already going to, by their normal route, just holding Steve Kean-Out out placards?
If so, it will most likely do bugger all good, just like the abuse (even though I have a modicum of sympathy).


Perhaps a good alternative would be for all disaffected fans to stay away for a few games. A kick in the wallet for a couple of weeks might pique the attention of the Bernard Matthews appreciation society (Indian branch).