The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 9]

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mickk

28,990 posts

243 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Guvernator said:
Coutinho doesn't have a release clause in his contract, he's only recently signed a four year deal and Liverpool are adamant he isn't going anywhere. Still at least the news takes the pressure of us for a change. biggrin

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But as I said on their thread, why would you keep a player that's handed in a transfer request?

It never works.

Yidwann

1,872 posts

211 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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I think I am a bit like Guvernator, an optimistic realist? Mind have you ever read the Harry Hotspur blog? I don't know why he bothers to carry on supporting Spurs, Jesus Wept!

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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mickk said:
Guvernator said:
Coutinho doesn't have a release clause in his contract, he's only recently signed a four year deal and Liverpool are adamant he isn't going anywhere. Still at least the news takes the pressure of us for a change. biggrin

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But as I said on their thread, why would you keep a player that's handed in a transfer request?

It never works.
Worked well for us when we kept Suarez for another season...

mickk

28,990 posts

243 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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jammy-git said:
Worked well for us when we kept Suarez for another season...
Did he hand a transfer request in?

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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He did.

48k

13,226 posts

149 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Guvernator said:
Coutinho doesn't have a release clause in his contract, he's only recently signed a four year deal and Liverpool are adamant he isn't going anywhere.
Liverpool can be as adamant as they want, it's all irrelevant now the player has handed in a transfer request and with an interested club with money to burn. They can of course continue to turn down the money and not sell him but he's an expensive asset to have sat around not playing and the bean counters will only let that go on so long before they'd rather have the cash in the bank.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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48k said:
Guvernator said:
Coutinho doesn't have a release clause in his contract, he's only recently signed a four year deal and Liverpool are adamant he isn't going anywhere.
Liverpool can be as adamant as they want, it's all irrelevant now the player has handed in a transfer request. They can of course continue to turn down the money and not sell him but he's an expensive asset to have sat around not playing and the bean counters will only let that go on so long before they'd rather have the cash in the bank.
How is it irrelevant? Keita hasn't been sold. VVD hasn't been sold (and he's throwing more of a tantrum than Keita or Coutinho). Who said Coutinho won't play? Nor do we need cash in the bank.

In fact Leipzig and Southampton are in worse positions than us. Keita has a release clause that becomes active next summer, so if they wanted to cash in the time was now. Southampton are having to put up with their captain and best player currently not training with the squad or playing for them.

As Guvernator says, Coutinho has a long contract, no release clause and he's (as yet) not refusing to play (nor does he come across as a player who is likely to use that tactic). Unless Leipzig suddenly decide to sell Keita, there is no chance we're selling Coutinho this summer.

Cheib

23,315 posts

176 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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mickk said:
Ascayman said:
Annoyingly I think it's been a good window for arsenal.
Sanchez and Ox could still go.
As an Arsenal fan I'd disagree......Arsenal's big big problem last year was Central Midfield....that was only solved with the back three for the last ten games. As it stands we only have one or potentially two functining pairs...i.e. Xhaka and Ramsey and Xhaka and Elneny. Nothing else works apart from Coquelin and Cazorl and Cazorla is out for the season.

Potentially we've got a good First XI but we seem to have replaced a midfield that was only functional with Cazorla with one that is only functional with Xhaka.

That said I think Xhaka might be a player that might surprise a few people this year after a difficult first season.

Seventy

5,500 posts

139 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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jammy-git said:
mickk said:
Guvernator said:
Coutinho doesn't have a release clause in his contract, he's only recently signed a four year deal and Liverpool are adamant he isn't going anywhere. Still at least the news takes the pressure of us for a change. biggrin

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But as I said on their thread, why would you keep a player that's handed in a transfer request?

It never works.
Worked well for us when we kept Suarez for another season...
Did it? What did you win?

Guvernator

13,181 posts

166 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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I wish someone rich would come in and buy Tottenham, if only just to stop all this transfer speculation BS where according to the papers, half our team are for sale EVERY SINGLE YEAR!

Still could be worse, could be Liverpool, apparently they are rich and apparently don't need the money and yet they still get hit with transfer gossip and sell their best players every year. biggrin

mickk

28,990 posts

243 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Apart from injuries, what do these players have in common?


Ascayman

12,769 posts

217 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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jammy-git said:
As Guvernator says, Coutinho has a long contract, no release clause and he's (as yet) not refusing to play (nor does he come across as a player who is likely to use that tactic). .
Three hours ago he wasn't the type to hand in a transfer request..

lemmingjames

7,464 posts

205 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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jammy-git said:
How is it irrelevant? Keita hasn't been sold. VVD hasn't been sold (and he's throwing more of a tantrum than Keita or Coutinho). Who said Coutinho won't play? Nor do we need cash in the bank.

In fact Leipzig and Southampton are in worse positions than us. Keita has a release clause that becomes active next summer, so if they wanted to cash in the time was now. Southampton are having to put up with their captain and best player currently not training with the squad or playing for them.

As Guvernator says, Coutinho has a long contract, no release clause and he's (as yet) not refusing to play (nor does he come across as a player who is likely to use that tactic). Unless Leipzig suddenly decide to sell Keita, there is no chance we're selling Coutinho this summer.
IF you was Leipzig or Southampton and you heard via the grape vine/rumours of the potential Coutinho deal, would you sell your players for X when you know Liverpool are likely to have a bigger war chest to play with and then screw them over for more money? Youd be doing yourself out of potentially millions just by doing an early deal. Its no different to when Bale joined RM

48k

13,226 posts

149 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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TEKNOPUG

19,019 posts

206 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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mickk said:
Apart from injuries, what do these players have in common?

They're all struggling to make ends meet on their modern-slavery salaries?

qotsa

760 posts

135 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
mickk said:
Apart from injuries, what do these players have in common?

They're all struggling to make ends meet on their modern-slavery salaries?
laugh

I just hope we don't get relegated

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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lemmingjames said:
IF you was Leipzig or Southampton and you heard via the grape vine/rumours of the potential Coutinho deal, would you sell your players for X when you know Liverpool are likely to have a bigger war chest to play with and then screw them over for more money? Youd be doing yourself out of potentially millions just by doing an early deal. Its no different to when Bale joined RM
We had already ended our interest in Keita and VVD by the time Barca came in for Coutinho.

NRS

22,250 posts

202 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Ascayman said:
Pretty much all but RT are in denial even now. A few that have been posting on here in the last 24hrs look particularly foolish now.
RT would have a field day in here if he was a Spurs fan. Literally everything he says about FSG could be aimed at Levy.

Not willing to spend money on new signings.
Not willing to pay players properly.
Just out to make a profit, trying to run the club on the cheap.
Not winning anything as a result.

Just count yourselves lucky.

Just take Rose - RT would be saying he is perfectly right, Levy is being cheap, why would he stay when he's been promised wins etc. Not to mention selling a player to a direct rival previously. Yet (mostly) you're all saying players will stay because they're loyal (Countinho), you can't afford to pay more as a club etc. You're in the same position as most Liverpool fans. Just you don't have a complete **** in the thread pointing it out, wanting you to lose to get rid of the manager (RT has actually said he wanted us to lose previously) etc.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Don't forget the brilliant little nicknames he comes up with.

NRS

22,250 posts

202 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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jammy-git said:
Don't forget the brilliant little nicknames he comes up with.
Good point! There'd be "Glen Doddle" or similar I'd imagine.
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