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Driver101 said:
Antony Moxey said:
I've said this before, they all have GPS trackers in their shirts these days, why not use them? It would be irrefutable then, regardless of the position of the player's toe or fingernail, the position of the GPS tracker is what counts and would be absolute.
GPS is not accurate enough. Even if it was 100% accurate a player could be backing into another player in an offside position and their GPS would show identical locations even though one is clearly off.
Antony Moxey said:
Driver101 said:
Antony Moxey said:
smn159 said:
JmatthewB said:
Is a GPS sensor accurate enough when we are talking about millimeters?
NoThe simple answer is not to use GPS which isn't accurate enough to be used. It would be better to go back to purely the ref and linesman's judgement.
Any links backing this up?
Am I missing something? - Entire Scottish team has been a a bubble for weeks - which by definition means no social distancing required. Shared gym, dressing rooms, dining facilities etc. Any yet not one single player deemed to have been in close contact?.....2 English players have a quick chat after the game on the pitch and they are deemed to be close contacts. Gilmour was hugged by his manager and teamates - WTF.?...Still - silver lining - perhaps Mr Risk Averse Soutgate will have to start Grealish now.....
Wiltshire Lad said:
Am I missing something? - Entire Scottish team has been a a bubble for weeks - which by definition means no social distancing required. Shared gym, dressing rooms, dining facilities etc. Any yet not one single player deemed to have been in close contact?.....2 English players have a quick chat after the game on the pitch and they are deemed to be close contacts. Gilmour was hugged by his manager and teamates - WTF.?...Still - silver lining - perhaps Mr Risk Averse Soutgate will have to start Grealish now.....
Nope. Apparently this isn’t close contact now.
Talk of GPS is stupid. It’s slow to update, inaccurate, and guess what…. In and around large structures it gets even worst. You know, like massive stadiums with partial roofs.
So much b
ks.
Offside should be recorded by the human eye and should be a clear offence, not something people will argue about.
So much b
ks. Offside should be recorded by the human eye and should be a clear offence, not something people will argue about.
Bonefish Blues said:
simoid said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Southgate said last night that they were waiting for advice from PHE
Yeah, so the FA are taking the decision based on advice as opposed to orders.(Countering the suggestion that PHE seem to be favouring Scotland over England).
TTmonkey said:
Talk of GPS is stupid. It’s slow to update, inaccurate, and guess what…. In and around large structures it gets even worst. You know, like massive stadiums with partial roofs.
So much bks.
Offside should be recorded by the human eye and should be a clear offence, not something people will argue about.
The human eye is what causes people to argue about it. So much b
ks. Offside should be recorded by the human eye and should be a clear offence, not something people will argue about.
unident said:
TTmonkey said:
Talk of GPS is stupid. It’s slow to update, inaccurate, and guess what…. In and around large structures it gets even worst. You know, like massive stadiums with partial roofs.
So much bks.
Offside should be recorded by the human eye and should be a clear offence, not something people will argue about.
The human eye is what causes people to argue about it. So much b
ks. Offside should be recorded by the human eye and should be a clear offence, not something people will argue about.
Let’s have more celebrations at goal scoring, instead of two minutes of wondering….. instant decisions, live by them.
Like the previous 100 years or so.
It seems the reason why Mount & Chilwell are self-isolating is nothing to do with the post-match on-the-field stuff with Gilmour. It's to do with a 25 minute conversation they had in the tunnel area after the game. There's always been this 15 minute "limit" on being near to other people that if you exceed it, it increases your risk of infection. So Steve Clarke's hug, everyone's hugs for Gilmour in fact, don't count but the England pair spent too long with him.
Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
No one really wanted VAR in the first place. ALL that was needed was the ability for a pitchside official to be able to intervene when there was an obvious, huge error by the referee on the field, to be able him to review it with the aid of a replay. And I mean OBVIOUS errors. Like after Charlie Austin's rant. If a player was clearly offside in the build up to a goal and by clear I mean obvious daylight between the attacker and the last defender. Clear and obvious handballs (intentional) or fouls leading to a penalty or a goal or a missed offence that would would lead to a definite red card. That is ALL the intervention that is required. The power to get the ref to stop a game and review with an official at pitchside. No forensics, no VAR.
The ridiculousness of the situation is that when it was really needed the season before last, it wasn't used as it didn't fit the "criteria"! That was when the goal line technology failed and didn't allow a clear goal. The goal line technology is brilliant and works 100%, barring failure of the technology itself, so when that does happen, it's time to step on. Absolutely scandalous!
The ridiculousness of the situation is that when it was really needed the season before last, it wasn't used as it didn't fit the "criteria"! That was when the goal line technology failed and didn't allow a clear goal. The goal line technology is brilliant and works 100%, barring failure of the technology itself, so when that does happen, it's time to step on. Absolutely scandalous!
GloverMart said:
It seems the reason why Mount & Chilwell are self-isolating is nothing to do with the post-match on-the-field stuff with Gilmour. It's to do with a 25 minute conversation they had in the tunnel area after the game. There's always been this 15 minute "limit" on being near to other people that if you exceed it, it increases your risk of infection. So Steve Clarke's hug, everyone's hugs for Gilmour in fact, don't count but the England pair spent too long with him.
Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
They should have just had a drink in a pub instead, remembering to put their mask on when they stood up.Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
GloverMart said:
It seems the reason why Mount & Chilwell are self-isolating is nothing to do with the post-match on-the-field stuff with Gilmour. It's to do with a 25 minute conversation they had in the tunnel area after the game. There's always been this 15 minute "limit" on being near to other people that if you exceed it, it increases your risk of infection. So Steve Clarke's hug, everyone's hugs for Gilmour in fact, don't count but the England pair spent too long with him.
Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
These viruses are getting smarter. Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
TTmonkey said:
Arguments are just healthy discussions. It’s good to talk.
Let’s have more celebrations at goal scoring, instead of two minutes of wondering….. instant decisions, live by them.
Like the previous 100 years or so.
I’m with you all the way on that. I had a few quid riding on the games last night and was getting jittery, the goal being ruled out took me for, elation to despair and an empty feeling when I saw how little was actually in it. That was compounded by the shot of the ball clearly having left KdB’s foot when they stopped the frame to check. Let’s have more celebrations at goal scoring, instead of two minutes of wondering….. instant decisions, live by them.
Like the previous 100 years or so.
GloverMart said:
It seems the reason why Mount & Chilwell are self-isolating is nothing to do with the post-match on-the-field stuff with Gilmour. It's to do with a 25 minute conversation they had in the tunnel area after the game. There's always been this 15 minute "limit" on being near to other people that if you exceed it, it increases your risk of infection. So Steve Clarke's hug, everyone's hugs for Gilmour in fact, don't count but the England pair spent too long with him.
Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
Did the Scots not shower after the game? Share a coach?Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
Doesn't make one iota of sense.
simoid said:
TTmonkey said:
England players being isolated for days when Scots players aren’t smacks of some kind of under handedness going on. This is going to blow up.
Ridiculous.
Wild assumptions based on incomplete information matter Ridiculous.
GloverMart said:
It seems the reason why Mount & Chilwell are self-isolating is nothing to do with the post-match on-the-field stuff with Gilmour. It's to do with a 25 minute conversation they had in the tunnel area after the game. There's always been this 15 minute "limit" on being near to other people that if you exceed it, it increases your risk of infection. So Steve Clarke's hug, everyone's hugs for Gilmour in fact, don't count but the England pair spent too long with him.
Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
OK, well that makes a tiny bit more sense I suppose. But does that mean that no other Scotland players have been near Gilmour for any 15 minute period in the Scotland "bubble" then? He must be a really lonely bloke!Not my rules, but that's how I'm reading them.
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