The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 14]
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Flip Martian said:
I'll be glad when they're down after that performance. TWICE they should have been down to 10 men.
It was the same bloke both times, but we can't make any excuses.That type of performance was common place not so long ago so the positive is a that it is less and less usual for us to f
k it up like that.desolate said:
wjb said:
I think the only thing we've all learned from that game is how good Trent and Robertson are.
Yep.Disappointing and in the end that's the sort of game why we are still looking over our shoulder for fourth rather than sitting comfortably in 2nd.
Klavan & Moreno passing back and forth when it was obvious neither wanted the ball, and Gomez being slack in possession was a disgrace, couple others were guilty too.
Poor game, but hopefully no injuries to worry about.
I know Klopp wears his heart on his sleeve, but he really needs to learn to calm down (get it?) before he goes in front of the cameras. There are times when he looks like a broken man and that will give the opposition plenty to play on.
Steve McMahon making a lot of sense with his punditry.
Steve McMahon making a lot of sense with his punditry.
wjb said:
I think the only thing we've all learned from that game is how good Trent and Robertson are.
& the fact you are very weak at defending set pieces & Dzeko is a far better player than Rondon.With a Euro semi coming up & 4th still in the balance it must be great that the season is still alive for a few clubs.
Steve McMahon reminds me of Hank from Breaking Bad 
Klopp clearly not happy. The pitch nonsense is just taking away from his anger at throwing away a 2-0 lead and cruising. I get that. I do however like that Klopp is unhappy. Shows he wants and demands more. A good trait. Wish a few of the players showed that today.
Klopp clearly not happy. The pitch nonsense is just taking away from his anger at throwing away a 2-0 lead and cruising. I get that. I do however like that Klopp is unhappy. Shows he wants and demands more. A good trait. Wish a few of the players showed that today.
Today was a reminder of the bad old days of giving away goals. It's almost as of VVD has enough calmness to keep the defence under control when he has mainly Lovren to contend with but add Klavan, Moreno and Gomez who seemed to be having a competition to see who won't be picked for Tues and even VVD can't cope!
Got to sell Klavan and Moreno this summer, or give them away
Got to sell Klavan and Moreno this summer, or give them away
Black can man said:
wjb said:
I think the only thing we've all learned from that game is how good Trent and Robertson are.
& the fact you are very weak at defending set pieces & Dzeko is a far better player than Rondon.With a Euro semi coming up & 4th still in the balance it must be great that the season is still alive for a few clubs.
I did wonder if we'd have set piece issues at the start - when coming out of the tunnel it did seem like they were generally taller than us. But we could have won anyway, as well as losing too.
Madness60 said:
Today was a reminder of the bad old days of giving away goals. It's almost as of VVD has enough calmness to keep the defence under control when he has mainly Lovren to contend with but add Klavan, Moreno and Gomez who seemed to be having a competition to see who won't be picked for Tues and even VVD can't cope!
Got to sell Klavan and Moreno this summer, or give them away
Yup, exactly this, I think three changes in defence is just too much. Plus I feel like we didn’t really get out of second gear for fear of injuries ahead of Tuesday.Got to sell Klavan and Moreno this summer, or give them away
type-r said:
Klopp clearly not happy. The pitch nonsense is just taking away from his anger at throwing away a 2-0 lead and cruising. I get that. I do however like that Klopp is unhappy. Shows he wants and demands more. A good trait. Wish a few of the players showed that today.
all well and good being competitive and annoyed when you lose - but snide remarks about WBA getting relegated are unnecessary. I hope he stops that(won't be sad to see them go down mind you, always play in a horrible way typified by Hegazi who should have conceded a penalty and two reds)
Adam B said:
all well and good being competitive and annoyed when you lose - but snide remarks about WBA getting relegated are unnecessary. I hope he stops that
(won't be sad to see them go down mind you, always play in a horrible way typified by Hegazi who should have conceded a penalty and two reds)
I thought his interview today showed a side to him he tends to keep hidden from public view. I saw some interview with 1 of the players recently who was asked what he was like to work for and he said "hard, he's very demanding" or words to that effect. Now that can be a good thing of course but he's shown more this season when we do do badly that he gets in a pretty filthy mood about it. All that whining about WBA not watering the pitch so we couldn't pass the ball on the ground, "which was fine for them because they always play with the ball in the air" (paraphrasing) really wasn't necessary. I guess he's really feeling the stress at the moment.(won't be sad to see them go down mind you, always play in a horrible way typified by Hegazi who should have conceded a penalty and two reds)
Agree with both - Klopp saying they can continue not to water it next season when in the Championship - that was not right and very un-Liverpool like and I hope he does apologise. Definitely a different side to Klopp that we haven't seen before. I just wish the players had been that angry and demanding when 2-0 up and perhaps that is what Klopp was trying to convey. Next season, there needs to be 100% focus to convert the majority of those 11 league draws into wins.
The thing is playing Gomez and Moreno is almost a no-win in this type of game; both know they are simply being used as pawns to give their counterparts a rest for Tuesday. Doesn't do much for their motivation (putting aside how much they get paid). I expect TAA and Robertson to be absolutely flying down the wings Tues night as it's pretty clear why Klopp rested both.
The thing is playing Gomez and Moreno is almost a no-win in this type of game; both know they are simply being used as pawns to give their counterparts a rest for Tuesday. Doesn't do much for their motivation (putting aside how much they get paid). I expect TAA and Robertson to be absolutely flying down the wings Tues night as it's pretty clear why Klopp rested both.
jammy-git said:
Madness60 said:
Today was a reminder of the bad old days of giving away goals. It's almost as of VVD has enough calmness to keep the defence under control when he has mainly Lovren to contend with but add Klavan, Moreno and Gomez who seemed to be having a competition to see who won't be picked for Tues and even VVD can't cope!
Got to sell Klavan and Moreno this summer, or give them away
Yup, exactly this, I think three changes in defence is just too much. Plus I feel like we didn’t really get out of second gear for fear of injuries ahead of Tuesday.Got to sell Klavan and Moreno this summer, or give them away
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