The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)
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and31 said:
Funny that you didn’t quote the positives from last season-
18 months from now we will be in the same position
You specifically asked me to post the red flags I raised, which is exactly what I did…..18 months from now we will be in the same position
If you’d have asked me to specifically post the positives from the end of last season, I’d have done just that.
If that makes me a “bulls
t merchant” in your opinion, I can happily live with that.Well this has escalated quickly. Not sure why ETH’s current position is all Simon800’s fault. It will be interesting to see the mental gymnastics at what INEOS are about to do, when they were being championed as the saviours of United after they bought their minority shareholding less than 6 months ago. In case some are struggling INEOS, specifically SJR will be the ones who sack ETH in the coming days.
Well ignoring the usual endless negativity on this thread from the usual suspects I've got an fa cup final to look forward to.
700 odd teams started in the competition and we're in the last 2. We may be rank outsiders to win but I'll be supporting Erik and the boys right up until the final whistle.
UTFR
700 odd teams started in the competition and we're in the last 2. We may be rank outsiders to win but I'll be supporting Erik and the boys right up until the final whistle.
UTFR
It looks like lneos plan has probably always been to give ETH until the end of season, unless we had a big upturn in form towards the end of the season.
Since the second half of the home game against Sevilla last season things have been bad. This season started win a dodgy win against wolves, and I can’t remember any game where we have dominated a team. Not even against lower league opposition in the cups.
For whatever reason things haven’t worked for ETH at united, I wish him good luck with his future appointments, and hope all the players put a top shift in today and we somehow sneak a win and send him out on a high.
Since the second half of the home game against Sevilla last season things have been bad. This season started win a dodgy win against wolves, and I can’t remember any game where we have dominated a team. Not even against lower league opposition in the cups.
For whatever reason things haven’t worked for ETH at united, I wish him good luck with his future appointments, and hope all the players put a top shift in today and we somehow sneak a win and send him out on a high.
Edited by J6542 on Saturday 25th May 08:14
Weso said:
Well ignoring the usual endless negativity on this thread from the usual suspects I've got an fa cup final to look forward to.
700 odd teams started in the competition and we're in the last 2. We may be rank outsiders to win but I'll be supporting Erik and the boys right up until the final whistle.
UTFR
Good job you’re so positive with your “rank outsiders” comment700 odd teams started in the competition and we're in the last 2. We may be rank outsiders to win but I'll be supporting Erik and the boys right up until the final whistle.
UTFR
By the sounds of that interview that’s just gone out, INEOS told EtH that they want to rebuild WITH him. If they’ve told him that and then go back on it, then it’s a really bad look for the new owners. We should be talking about football and the FA cup final today, not if the manager is staying or going. All a massive st show and if INEOS are backing EtH then they should’ve come out and said so.
Steep learning curve for them.
t show and if INEOS are backing EtH then they should’ve come out and said so.Steep learning curve for them.
StuTheGrouch said:
Odds on McKenna being the next manager seem to be shortening as the hours go by. As I said a few pages ago (there's been a lot of arguing since), he would be my choice IF we part ways with Ten Hag.
FA cup final day! Come on Utd!
Young manager in charge of one of the worlds biggest clubs with one of the most toxic dressing rooms in football.FA cup final day! Come on Utd!
It's a bold strategy Cotton.
MiniMan64 said:
Anyone care to explain what it is about McKenna that so appeals?
Of the available managers, I can give strong reasons why I wouldn't go for them (Poch, Tuchel, Allegri, Frank and Southgate). McKenna is ambitious, well-regarded at Utd and has shown that he is tactically aware. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be a big gamble, but it would be a welcome change from the revolving doors of big name managers who are clearly not a long-term strategy.Might be far too soon, but who knows. He would undoubtedly need support from the Sporting and Football Directors in dealing with some of the more challenging characters. I think that would be a good reason why he would build from youth too, which appeals too.
All that said, he would be my choice IF we part ways with Ten Hag. If we stick with Ten Hag, I'm happy with him having another year.
I don’t think McKenna is a good move. It’s nice and sentimental, but look how that worked out for Ole and Lampard. The only way it can possibly work is if all big names are shipped out and as others have laughed at me suggesting that previously then I think he’s on a hiding to nothing. Winning in the lower leagues is a totally different game to winning in the PL or in Europe.
I could see us spending a decade in the lower end of the PL or potentially even worse if we have to have a wholesale clear out and rely on buying younger hungry players only. McKenna won’t attract anyone of note to the club which might not be a bad thing but he won’t win over the bigger names currently here.
If he does get the job then I hope it works and I’ll support him, but it’s a step too far IMO at this stage of his managerial career.
I could see us spending a decade in the lower end of the PL or potentially even worse if we have to have a wholesale clear out and rely on buying younger hungry players only. McKenna won’t attract anyone of note to the club which might not be a bad thing but he won’t win over the bigger names currently here.
If he does get the job then I hope it works and I’ll support him, but it’s a step too far IMO at this stage of his managerial career.
GTO-3R said:
By the sounds of that interview that’s just gone out, INEOS told EtH that they want to rebuild WITH him. If they’ve told him that and then go back on it, then it’s a really bad look for the new owners. We should be talking about football and the FA cup final today, not if the manager is staying or going. All a massive st show and if INEOS are backing EtH then they should’ve come out and said so.
Steep learning curve for them.
Which article is that? Quite a few come out recently so would be worth a read t show and if INEOS are backing EtH then they should’ve come out and said so.Steep learning curve for them.
LF5335 said:
I don’t think McKenna is a good move. It’s nice and sentimental, but look how that worked out for Ole and Lampard. The only way it can possibly work is if all big names are shipped out and as others have laughed at me suggesting that previously then I think he’s on a hiding to nothing. Winning in the lower leagues is a totally different game to winning in the PL or in Europe.
I could see us spending a decade in the lower end of the PL or potentially even worse if we have to have a wholesale clear out and rely on buying younger hungry players only. McKenna won’t attract anyone of note to the club which might not be a bad thing but he won’t win over the bigger names currently here.
If he does get the job then I hope it works and I’ll support him, but it’s a step too far IMO at this stage of his managerial career.
Guardiola did one season with Barcelona B, gained them promotion then managed Barcelona the following season and won the treble.I could see us spending a decade in the lower end of the PL or potentially even worse if we have to have a wholesale clear out and rely on buying younger hungry players only. McKenna won’t attract anyone of note to the club which might not be a bad thing but he won’t win over the bigger names currently here.
If he does get the job then I hope it works and I’ll support him, but it’s a step too far IMO at this stage of his managerial career.
McKenna has won back to back promotions and has a loss rate of only 15% (ETH at Utd is running at 27% loss rate).
Worth a go ahead of others who've shown little result at clubs with big resources, such as Pochettino.
LF5335 said:
Weso said:
Well ignoring the usual endless negativity on this thread from the usual suspects I've got an fa cup final to look forward to.
700 odd teams started in the competition and we're in the last 2. We may be rank outsiders to win but I'll be supporting Erik and the boys right up until the final whistle.
UTFR
Good job you’re so positive with your “rank outsiders” comment700 odd teams started in the competition and we're in the last 2. We may be rank outsiders to win but I'll be supporting Erik and the boys right up until the final whistle.
UTFR
I'd say my comment was pretty factual. Go back to your moaning and whining now unident.
Challo said:
GTO-3R said:
By the sounds of that interview that’s just gone out, INEOS told EtH that they want to rebuild WITH him. If they’ve told him that and then go back on it, then it’s a really bad look for the new owners. We should be talking about football and the FA cup final today, not if the manager is staying or going. All a massive st show and if INEOS are backing EtH then they should’ve come out and said so.
Steep learning curve for them.
Which article is that? Quite a few come out recently so would be worth a read t show and if INEOS are backing EtH then they should’ve come out and said so.Steep learning curve for them.
https://x.com/freek_jansenvi/status/17942480019360...
Forester1965 said:
uardiola did one season with Barcelona B, gained them promotion then managed Barcelona the following season and won the treble.
McKenna has won back to back promotions and has a loss rate of only 15% (ETH at Utd is running at 27% loss rate).
Worth a go ahead of others who've shown little result at clubs with big resources, such as Pochettino.
The difference being guardiola inherited a squad with Messi ,Xavi,insiesta, puyol,alves , pique ,Henry,eto etc etc .McKenna has won back to back promotions and has a loss rate of only 15% (ETH at Utd is running at 27% loss rate).
Worth a go ahead of others who've shown little result at clubs with big resources, such as Pochettino.
franki68 said:
Forester1965 said:
uardiola did one season with Barcelona B, gained them promotion then managed Barcelona the following season and won the treble.
McKenna has won back to back promotions and has a loss rate of only 15% (ETH at Utd is running at 27% loss rate).
Worth a go ahead of others who've shown little result at clubs with big resources, such as Pochettino.
The difference being guardiola inherited a squad with Messi ,Xavi,insiesta, puyol,alves , pique ,Henry,eto etc etc .McKenna has won back to back promotions and has a loss rate of only 15% (ETH at Utd is running at 27% loss rate).
Worth a go ahead of others who've shown little result at clubs with big resources, such as Pochettino.
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