Little old Wrexham

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Blib

44,519 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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I blame Jack Walker. yes

RammyMP

6,835 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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SpeckledJim said:
It's great news for Wrexham fans, obviously
It's good news for British lower-league football in the wider sense, as it gains more global awareness
It's not directly good news for their peer clubs and fans. Every step forward Wrexham takes is a step backward for them.
Football being a zero-sum game.

Wrexham getting back to the Football League is great news for Wrexham, but it's not the gigantic hallelujah moment it's being portrayed as. Two small clubs win a place in the Football League every single season. It's usually the clubs with the most money and the most expensive teams. As it is again this year. Normal service is normal service - it's just especially visible this year, because RR is cloud9 and we all love him to bits.

(As I say - great news for Wrexham fans, great to watch as an outsider, RR and RMcE are both playing an absolute blinder (and doing what I'd like to do if I could), and it's all good fun)
I agree. The problem is that other teams in the National League have not bothered trying this year due to Wrexham’s budget, look at Solihull Moors, 3rd last year, 12 now and Halifax, 4th last year, 13th this year. It’s backfired for Torquay who were challengers 2 seasons ago and they are now on the verge of relegation.



worsy

5,840 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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RammyMP said:
SpeckledJim said:
It's great news for Wrexham fans, obviously
It's good news for British lower-league football in the wider sense, as it gains more global awareness
It's not directly good news for their peer clubs and fans. Every step forward Wrexham takes is a step backward for them.
Football being a zero-sum game.

Wrexham getting back to the Football League is great news for Wrexham, but it's not the gigantic hallelujah moment it's being portrayed as. Two small clubs win a place in the Football League every single season. It's usually the clubs with the most money and the most expensive teams. As it is again this year. Normal service is normal service - it's just especially visible this year, because RR is cloud9 and we all love him to bits.

(As I say - great news for Wrexham fans, great to watch as an outsider, RR and RMcE are both playing an absolute blinder (and doing what I'd like to do if I could), and it's all good fun)
I agree. The problem is that other teams in the National League have not bothered trying this year due to Wrexham’s budget, look at Solihull Moors, 3rd last year, 12 now and Halifax, 4th last year, 13th this year. It’s backfired for Torquay who were challengers 2 seasons ago and they are now on the verge of relegation.
Am not sure that is the case. There are two spots available and Notts having come down from League 2 could have bombed. As Wrexham found out last year, the playoffs can be a lottery so doesn't make sense for those teams to "not try".

FredericRobinson

3,836 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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Notts can’t be accused of lack of effort, they’ve got a points total which would have seen them win the league by a mile in a normal season

SydneyBridge

8,798 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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Really hope Notts C go up, considering how far clear of everyone else they are

Flip Martian

19,828 posts

192 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
Really hope Notts C go up, considering how far clear of everyone else they are
Agreed. It's ludicrous there's only 1 automatic place.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

37 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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Flip Martian said:
SydneyBridge said:
Really hope Notts C go up, considering how far clear of everyone else they are
Agreed. It's ludicrous there's only 1 automatic place.
Did they say on the Boreham Wood commentary it's because of football-snobbery from the EFL? I heard something but wasn't paying much attention.

worsy

5,840 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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gt_12345 said:
Flip Martian said:
SydneyBridge said:
Really hope Notts C go up, considering how far clear of everyone else they are
Agreed. It's ludicrous there's only 1 automatic place.
Did they say on the Boreham Wood commentary it's because of football-snobbery from the EFL? I heard something but wasn't paying much attention.
EFL would have to vote for 3 up 3 down and turkeys don't vote for Xmas.

UTH

9,077 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Trying to tempt Bale out of retirement, that would be quite something

Flip Martian

19,828 posts

192 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Before the Boreham Wood game, Ryan sang the "it's McElhenney" song to Rob...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1XmxnClg20

BoRED S2upid

19,832 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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UTH said:
Trying to tempt Bale out of retirement, that would be quite something
Don’t believe every rumour you hear. IMO he wouldn’t last 2 games and would be a complete waste of money league 2 is completely different to anything he’s experienced in the last 10 years. Of course the social media / YouTube/ Disney would pay for his wages but we don’t need him in the squad. Where would he fit? Who would he replace?

BossHogg

6,058 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Flip Martian said:
Before the Boreham Wood game, Ryan sang the "it's McElhenney" song to Rob...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1XmxnClg20
Absolutely brilliant, Rob looked embarrassed to hell! laugh

UTH

9,077 posts

180 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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BoRED S2upid said:
UTH said:
Trying to tempt Bale out of retirement, that would be quite something
Don’t believe every rumour you hear. IMO he wouldn’t last 2 games and would be a complete waste of money league 2 is completely different to anything he’s experienced in the last 10 years. Of course the social media / YouTube/ Disney would pay for his wages but we don’t need him in the squad. Where would he fit? Who would he replace?
Sorry, not a clue, don't know much about your team, just following the awesome story like much of the world. Assumed a lower league team would always want someone like Bale if they could, perhaps not.

Flip Martian

19,828 posts

192 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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For any Wrexham fans who haven't seen it, they've been removing the 60 year old floodlight towers at the ground, ahead of their replacement. Some very decent drone footage here (not mine, just saw it this morning):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSF_iHFR24

Ashfordian

2,084 posts

91 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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BossHogg said:
Flip Martian said:
Before the Boreham Wood game, Ryan sang the "it's McElhenney" song to Rob...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1XmxnClg20
Absolutely brilliant, Rob looked embarrassed to hell! laugh
There are going to be more of things like this to come as they are birthday 'gifts' to each other, and with each birthday they seem to keep upping the anti laugh

BoRED S2upid

19,832 posts

242 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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Flip Martian said:
For any Wrexham fans who haven't seen it, they've been removing the 60 year old floodlight towers at the ground, ahead of their replacement. Some very decent drone footage here (not mine, just saw it this morning):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSF_iHFR24
That’s a shame they were iconic. Probably cost a small fortune to run and weren’t that bright compared to modern lighting.

UTH

9,077 posts

180 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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I've watched a fair few Ben Foster videos from his channel and podcast.....he sounds awesome. Massive fan now, what a good lad.

ch37

10,642 posts

223 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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UTH said:
I've watched a fair few Ben Foster videos from his channel and podcast.....he sounds awesome. Massive fan now, what a good lad.
He is.

All the talk of Bale, Robson-Kanu etc, no idea what those guys are like in real life but piling in old Welsh journeymen doesn't seem very clever from a football perspective. The team is pretty much high L2 standard as it is. Foster fit perfectly and regardless of his ultimate reasons for doing it, he absolutely seemed to 'get it'.

UTH

9,077 posts

180 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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ch37 said:
UTH said:
I've watched a fair few Ben Foster videos from his channel and podcast.....he sounds awesome. Massive fan now, what a good lad.
He is.

All the talk of Bale, Robson-Kanu etc, no idea what those guys are like in real life but piling in old Welsh journeymen doesn't seem very clever from a football perspective. The team is pretty much high L2 standard as it is. Foster fit perfectly and regardless of his ultimate reasons for doing it, he absolutely seemed to 'get it'.
I know nothing of the ins and outs, those more in the know do you think Foster will play again next year? Sounds like he's absolutely loved it so far, would seem a shame not to?

BoRED S2upid

19,832 posts

242 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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UTH said:
I know nothing of the ins and outs, those more in the know do you think Foster will play again next year? Sounds like he's absolutely loved it so far, would seem a shame not to?
Yes I recon he will sign. Give him a contract on his terms we don’t need him to play every game once the first choice is fit again. Big difference for a 40 year old keeper than an outfield player.