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I have to agree with Roy Keane at half time, I give up as well.Wacky Racer said:
Hardly needed to break out into a sweat, the gulf between City and United is huge.
I like Ole, he is a nice guy, but just not up to the job, but United's defence is shocking.
Pep would sort them out in a couple of months.
Only if Pep was also given half a billion to spend on defenders.I like Ole, he is a nice guy, but just not up to the job, but United's defence is shocking.
Pep would sort them out in a couple of months.
jammy-git said:
Wacky Racer said:
Hardly needed to break out into a sweat, the gulf between City and United is huge.
I like Ole, he is a nice guy, but just not up to the job, but United's defence is shocking.
Pep would sort them out in a couple of months.
Only if Pep was also given half a billion to spend on defenders.I like Ole, he is a nice guy, but just not up to the job, but United's defence is shocking.
Pep would sort them out in a couple of months.
I'm sure Pep could get Accrington Stanley in the premier league given time.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
He's never gone to an average team and lifted them, he's always gone where he's had resources to buy largely ready made stars, or at least those players with the very best potential.
In fact I can't think of many players who have left City and subsequently become quite average again.
Don't get me wrong, I think he does definitely help to improve players, largely through improving their footballing intelligence. But not to the extent of taking stones and turning them into diamond, but taking slightly rough diamonds and just smoothing off the rough edges.
He's never gone to an average team and lifted them, he's always gone where he's had resources to buy largely ready made stars, or at least those players with the very best potential.
In fact I can't think of many players who have left City and subsequently become quite average again.
Don't get me wrong, I think he does definitely help to improve players, largely through improving their footballing intelligence. But not to the extent of taking stones and turning them into diamond, but taking slightly rough diamonds and just smoothing off the rough edges.
Wacky Racer said:
I disagree. Pep is a very good coach and can turn average players into very good ones. In some ways it is harder working with multi millionaire megastars with their Ferraris and egos, they have to respect the manager and I don't think Ole commands any at OT.
I'm sure Pep could get Accrington Stanley in the premier league given time.
What average players has he turned into very good ones ?I'm sure Pep could get Accrington Stanley in the premier league given time.
It seems to me if a player is t up to it he just buys someone who is ,and he only takes on jobs where the team is already the best in the league .
Hes a brilliant manager but a brilliant manager of brilliant players ,he couldn’t do what klopp has done .
Which team do you think that Utd squad is knocking out of the top three? Given that Pep would have few players with the legs or brains to press well from that Utd team.
Also baring in mind that Peps first season with City (16/17), City finished third in what was quite a poor season with few decent teams.
Also baring in mind that Peps first season with City (16/17), City finished third in what was quite a poor season with few decent teams.
Wacky Racer said:
I'm convinced if Pep took over United tomorrow they would be in the top three at the end of the season, not hovering around the top ten which is where they will probably end up.
Klopp hardly inherited a bunch of no hopers, but I agree he is a fantastic manager.
Just for reference, Liverpool's first line up under Klopp.Klopp hardly inherited a bunch of no hopers, but I agree he is a fantastic manager.
The bench was Adam Bogdan, Kolo Toure, Jerome Sinclair, Joao Carlos Texiera and Connor Randall.
Doesn’t seem unreasonable but how is that measured? Almost impossible to measure improvement of a squad or achievement v budget/resources.
That said I have no issue with Pep being top, I like the football he plays and the way he conducts himself. Yes he is always had big budgets and good squads but that is hardly his fault.
That said I have no issue with Pep being top, I like the football he plays and the way he conducts himself. Yes he is always had big budgets and good squads but that is hardly his fault.
franki68 said:
What average players has he turned into very good ones ?
It seems to me if a player is t up to it he just buys someone who is ,and he only takes on jobs where the team is already the best in the league .
Hes a brilliant manager but a brilliant manager of brilliant players ,he couldn’t do what klopp has done .
FFS It seems to me if a player is t up to it he just buys someone who is ,and he only takes on jobs where the team is already the best in the league .
Hes a brilliant manager but a brilliant manager of brilliant players ,he couldn’t do what klopp has done .
Pep doesn’t start crying when City lose a game 
Mo & Mane’ … Klopp’s success!
Edited by Mariosbt on Tuesday 9th November 14:20
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