The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)

[and31]

dickymint said:

Challo said:

G-wiz said:

Yesterday, FA Cup Final, Wembley.
Today, play-off Final, Wembley.

Should some of these games not be played and shared around the country. Way too much London-centricity.

No issue with the finals at Wembley, but struggle to see why the semi finals need to be there.

Much prefer them to be played at a neutral ground depending on where there clubs are based.

Personally I've never agreed with having playoffs - it's a league wherever you finish you finish end of!

I agree

[Wacky Racer]

Ridiculous having the semi finals at Wembley (imo)

It devalues the final as an "occasion"

[dickymint]

And dirty Leeds fail again

[bstb3]

Wembley done us a treat this weekend though, to be fair. 2 days in a row.

[G-wiz]

dickymint said:

And dirty Leeds fail again

Shame, as that's normally a guaranteed 6 points.

[Gordon Hill]

Guffaw guffaw guffaw

[Gone a bit AMG]

LF5335 said:

Weso said:

If numerous people are telling you you're a miserable bell end maybe you should take it on board. You pretty much single handedly ruin this thread.
At least simon800 took criticism on the chin and actually had the balls to apologise.

DILLIGAF?

Well you replied. Nob.

[and31]

Leeds Leeds Leeds
What a shame hahaha

[Leicester Loyal]

and31 said:

dickymint said:

Challo said:

G-wiz said:

Yesterday, FA Cup Final, Wembley.
Today, play-off Final, Wembley.

Should some of these games not be played and shared around the country. Way too much London-centricity.

No issue with the finals at Wembley, but struggle to see why the semi finals need to be there.

Much prefer them to be played at a neutral ground depending on where there clubs are based.

Personally I've never agreed with having playoffs - it's a league wherever you finish you finish end of!

I agree

Half the teams in the league would have nothing to play for three quarters of the way through the season if there was no play offs.

[and31]

Wacky Racer said:

Ridiculous having the semi finals at Wembley (imo)

It devalues the final as an "occasion"

Exactly this-unless it was two London clubs in a semi final obviously

[Gordon Hill]

and31 said:

Leeds Leeds Leeds
What a shame hahaha

Can't remember a better weekend football wise for a long time, it's delicious.

[GloverMart]

and31 said:

Wacky Racer said:

Ridiculous having the semi finals at Wembley (imo)

It devalues the final as an "occasion"

Exactly this-unless it was two London clubs in a semi final obviously

There'd still be enough grounds to play at without having to play at Wembley. Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham are all 60k plus and while that's way short of Wembley's capacity, I'd still rather that then play at Wembley which should be finals only.

[Challo]

Interesting that no one else has come out with the same story that the Guardian reported with ETH definitely getting sacked.

All the reporting confirmed that no decision has been made about ETH. They have been speaking to potential other managers, but they are completing a review starting this week

[SWoll]

Leicester Loyal said:

Half the teams in the league would have nothing to play for three quarters of the way through the season if there was no play offs.

Probably be an idea to play better then? It's like a participation trophy at this point.

Straight to third v fourth I might be able to understand, but expecting a team that finished third on 90 points to play a team that finished 6th on 73 points for the right to get to the final is ridiculous. What have the team in 6th done to deserve the chance to get promoted?

[and31]

SWoll said:

Leicester Loyal said:

Half the teams in the league would have nothing to play for three quarters of the way through the season if there was no play offs.

Probably be an idea to play better then? It's like a participation trophy at this point.

Straight to third v fourth I might be able to understand, but expecting a team that finished third on 90 points to play a team that finished 6th on 73 points for the right to get to the final is ridiculous. What have the team in 6th done to deserve the chance to get promoted?

Yes that’s what I think-it used to just be the top three got promoted-imagine the outcry if the bottom six in the prem had a similar play off..

[dickymint]

SWoll said:

Leicester Loyal said:

Half the teams in the league would have nothing to play for three quarters of the way through the season if there was no play offs.

Probably be an idea to play better then? It's like a participation trophy at this point.

Straight to third v fourth I might be able to understand, but expecting a team that finished third on 90 points to play a team that finished 6th on 73 points for the right to get to the final is ridiculous. What have the team in 6th done to deserve the chance to get promoted?

Exactly. Plus the potential to 'rest' their top players for the play offs when they know there's no hope of automatic qualifying?

[and31]

dickymint said:

SWoll said:

Leicester Loyal said:

Half the teams in the league would have nothing to play for three quarters of the way through the season if there was no play offs.

Probably be an idea to play better then? It's like a participation trophy at this point.

Straight to third v fourth I might be able to understand, but expecting a team that finished third on 90 points to play a team that finished 6th on 73 points for the right to get to the final is ridiculous. What have the team in 6th done to deserve the chance to get promoted?

Exactly. Plus the potential to 'rest' their top players for the play offs when they know there's no hope of automatic qualifying?

And the teams that didn’t do too well and secure automatic promotion get a cup final at Wembley for basically not being good enough..

[Challo]

SWoll said:

Leicester Loyal said:

Half the teams in the league would have nothing to play for three quarters of the way through the season if there was no play offs.

Probably be an idea to play better then? It's like a participation trophy at this point.

Straight to third v fourth I might be able to understand, but expecting a team that finished third on 90 points to play a team that finished 6th on 73 points for the right to get to the final is ridiculous. What have the team in 6th done to deserve the chance to get promoted?

Play offs are a great idea. Gives loads of teams something to play for throughout the season. Plus allows the small teams with smaller budgets to get into the league above.

It's been a great way to end the season and works well. No need to change

[tele_lover]

dickymint said:

Challo said:

G-wiz said:

Yesterday, FA Cup Final, Wembley.
Today, play-off Final, Wembley.

Should some of these games not be played and shared around the country. Way too much London-centricity.

No issue with the finals at Wembley, but struggle to see why the semi finals need to be there.

Much prefer them to be played at a neutral ground depending on where there clubs are based.

Personally I've never agreed with having playoffs - it's a league wherever you finish you finish end of!

It gives EFL teams a reason to aim for 6/7th place.

[Kevin Cozner]

Challo said:

Interesting that no one else has come out with the same story that the Guardian reported with ETH definitely getting sacked.

All the reporting confirmed that no decision has been made about ETH. They have been speaking to potential other managers, but they are completing a review starting this week

This has been handled appallingly, which isn't a great look for the new regime who swept in on a tide of reinstating competence and professionalism. Even if ETH does stay now, what message has been sent out? That the owners clearly have no faith in him? Some will have knives out from day 1 of the new season, both in and out of the dressing room, and he'll start high up the "first to get sacked" charts.

Incredibly disappointing all round.