The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

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Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

97 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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anniesdad said:
Let’s see what you’re made of now then.
Snowflakes

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Sparkyhd said:
anniesdad said:
G Nev has hinted at it but City really are dirty tts when winning the ball back. Symptomatic of Guardiola teams of old. So predictable. rolleyes

Added to which this match is dull as dishwater. Chelsea parking buses and City incapable of delivering more than 1 shot on target in 45 minutes. What a load of ste.
Slight exaggeration to say we're parking the bus. We haven't got it out the bus depot yet.
Out of the champions league and out of the champions league, all in the space of the next 10 days.

Oh, and no shots at goal.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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gadgetmac said:
I think the problem is that City, Liverpool and Tottenham are all so good now at retaining possession and pressing that the rest have to try and catch up with this.

The old adage that you can’t score if you don’t have the ball is true so it follows that a 75/25 split of possession will usually end with the team on 75% winning.

Possession isn’t everything but with a game finely balanced I’d bet on the team in control of the pace of the game every time.
Spoken like a true Louis Van Gaal. biggrin

gadgetmac

14,984 posts

110 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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anniesdad said:
gadgetmac said:
I think the problem is that City, Liverpool and Tottenham are all so good now at retaining possession and pressing that the rest have to try and catch up with this.

The old adage that you can’t score if you don’t have the ball is true so it follows that a 75/25 split of possession will usually end with the team on 75% winning.

Possession isn’t everything but with a game finely balanced I’d bet on the team in control of the pace of the game every time.
Spoken like a true Louis Van Gaal. biggrin
There’s ‘possession’ and there’s ‘possession with intent’ - see Arsene Wenger for details.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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gadgetmac said:
anniesdad said:
gadgetmac said:
I think the problem is that City, Liverpool and Tottenham are all so good now at retaining possession and pressing that the rest have to try and catch up with this.

The old adage that you can’t score if you don’t have the ball is true so it follows that a 75/25 split of possession will usually end with the team on 75% winning.

Possession isn’t everything but with a game finely balanced I’d bet on the team in control of the pace of the game every time.
Spoken like a true Louis Van Gaal. biggrin
There’s ‘possession’ and there’s ‘possession with intent’ - see Arsene Wenger for details.
And LVG (cf Leicester a couple of seasons ago).

Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

97 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Alpinestars said:
Out of the champions league and out of the champions league, all in the space of the next 10 days.

Oh, and no shots at goal.
Going out of the Champions league is so bad you had to say it twice?

gadgetmac

14,984 posts

110 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Sparkyhd said:
Alpinestars said:
Out of the champions league and out of the champions league, all in the space of the next 10 days.

Oh, and no shots at goal.
Going out of the Champions league is so bad you had to say it twice?
I think the demise of Arsenal has had the effect of somewhat hiding the fall of Chelsea this season.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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gadgetmac said:
I think the demise of Arsenal has had the effect of somewhat hiding the fall of Chelsea this season.
Aye. Champions to chumpions.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Sparkyhd said:
Alpinestars said:
Out of the champions league and out of the champions league, all in the space of the next 10 days.

Oh, and no shots at goal.
Going out of the Champions league is so bad you had to say it twice?
So good, that you'll miss out on a place next year and get knocked out this year. HTH wink.

And you've probably missed your one shot.

Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

97 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Alpinestars said:
So good, that you'll miss out on a place next year and get knocked out this year. HTH wink.

And you've probably missed your one shot.
I don't care if we miss out next year. We're a roller-coaster and this year's a down slope.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Sparkyhd said:
Alpinestars said:
So good, that you'll miss out on a place next year and get knocked out this year. HTH wink.

And you've probably missed your one shot.
I don't care if we miss out next year. We're a roller-coaster and this year's a down slope.
Of course you don't care.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

214 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Alpinestars said:
Sparkyhd said:
Alpinestars said:
So good, that you'll miss out on a place next year and get knocked out this year. HTH wink.

And you've probably missed your one shot.
I don't care if we miss out next year. We're a roller-coaster and this year's a down slope.
Of course you don't care.
In the same way Utd fans all of a sudden don't care about finishing second.

mickk

29,029 posts

244 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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jammy-git said:
In the same way Utd fans all of a sudden don't care about finishing second.
In a two horse race?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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jammy-git said:
Alpinestars said:
Sparkyhd said:
Alpinestars said:
So good, that you'll miss out on a place next year and get knocked out this year. HTH wink.

And you've probably missed your one shot.
I don't care if we miss out next year. We're a roller-coaster and this year's a down slope.
Of course you don't care.
In the same way Utd fans all of a sudden don't care about finishing second.
I care about second, but only because I want to come above you lot. I definitely care about top 4. I'd always care about CL qualification. Anyone who says they don't is talking bks, or supports a team who never had a chance of qualifying.

200Plus Club

10,851 posts

280 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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2nd, 3rd or 4th is still improving from the last few years but yes 2nd would be nice. It's still means best loser though lol

jammy-git

29,778 posts

214 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Alpinestars said:
I care about second, but only because I want to come above you lot. I definitely care about top 4. I'd always care about CL qualification. Anyone who says they don't is talking bks, or supports a team who never had a chance of qualifying.
Completely agree!

MiniMan64

17,040 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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mike74 said:
franki68 said:
You’re confused mike,1/2 billion is pretty close to how much more city have spent over the last 7 years than united.
City have spent marginally more than utd in the last 7 years on transfers, most generally accepted figures are around £580m for utd v £750m for City.

The difference being that one of them clubs is now on an entirely different level in terms of the style of football and technical ability of their players, whilst the other club looks like it needs to spend another half a bill (and get a better manager) just to even try and compete.
£750 million vs £580 million is marginally more? Right oh.

And anyway, surely that more pertinent point is where that £750m and £580m have come from, rather different sources me thinks.

mike74

3,687 posts

134 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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ORD said:
Another big difference: Man Utd earn the money they spend by being a successful team and club, whereas City are a plastic club that was hollowed out by money men and is used to launder cash.

Utd are a real football club; City used to be an average but genuine team and are now plastic.
Bingo! Here we go again, generating income from having official noodle partners, official engine oil partners, official mattress partners and official paint partners gives you so much credibility!

The only success utd have truly had in recent years is their ability to generate revenue from ever more bizarre and obscure commercial partners.

200Plus Club

10,851 posts

280 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Chelsea outplayed and stuffed. 902 passes apparently by city. Just hoping it's not won against UTD but it's looming lol.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

240 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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200Plus Club said:
Chelsea outplayed and stuffed. 902 passes apparently by city. Just hoping it's not won against UTD but it's looming lol.
Statistically 1 clear cut chance in the whole game. fking rubbish.
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