The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

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Terzo123

4,347 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th May
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Not a great game,

The Rangers got their tactics spot on, Voldermot finally realised his team can't compete in the middle of the park, so he adopted the tactics most other teams utilise against Celtic.

The ref did his best, blatant hand ball ignored, booked mcgregor for nothing. I was genuinely astonished var intervened for the blatant push on Hart. The ref didn't want to give it, but it was so clear to see.

A nice double in the bag.



abzmike

8,677 posts

108 months

Saturday 25th May
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Celtic eventually had the quality to grind out the win.
Decent season and great double after an injury plagued middle portion, but key players, and contributions from guys like Idah sealed the deals.
Plenty of petulant nonsense from opponents, ‘we were the better side’ etc, and a wonderful moment where Cantwell shoved away from the referee by his raging manager.
Looking forward to next season to see which team has been improved more.

Strocky

2,665 posts

115 months

Sunday 26th May
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Drive Blind said:
Fond memories of cup final saturday as a kid. One of the few live games to be on the telly.
It was always sunny. BBC Grandstand shortly after starting would go to Hampden to start the pre match build up at about 12:15. With updates with the team news at 1300 and 1400, inbetween maybe some touring car racing or rally cross.
There would be a 'the road to Hampden' feature.
Pitchside would be somebody like dougie donnelly.
The pipers would be doing that thing where they marched up and down the pitch about 10 rows wide.
My dad would head round to a mates with some cans to watch the game. I wasn't allowed to go with him.
Word for word, DB

Strocky

2,665 posts

115 months

Sunday 26th May
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Penalty to Sevco

hotchy

4,504 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th May
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Strocky said:

Penalty to Sevco
Hahaha what a save man. Header was going towards goal, and most likely in the net. Must have used up the 1 rangers get out of jail free cards so couldn't use it for the blatant push in the back. Hart clearly about to hit the ball before suddenly launching 6 foot forward.

About the game. At first I thought it was county we was playing. Camped in the box like we scared boys. 33% possession? That's utter disgraceful. When they finally brought in the fast players to attempt to play, it opened up and we scored. To be fair the county tactics nearly worked for them. Should have stuck to them and played for penalties.

hongkongdonkey

578 posts

144 months

Sunday 26th May
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I was a bit worried prior to the game given our recent form and the injuries we at the moment but was relatively pleased with the lineup. The atmosphere in the Rangers end was fantastic, probably the best I've experienced at Hampden. A different approach tactical was perhaps understandable given who we had available and it was obvious a few were playing who were not fit. Celtic hardly threatened at all and looked slow and clueless, they may have had 59% possession but most of that was Scales standing with the ball not knowing what to do with it. Rangers 11 corners to the 3 of celtic perhaps tells more about who was under more pressure. Diomande and Raskin were great in midfield and hopefully a good base to build from for next season. I felt it the goal being chopped off was a bit harsh considering Taylor had both hands around Raskin.

That's the third old form goal Rangers have had against disallowed this season but still the celtic fans think there is a conspiracy against them. Nick Walsh is the best referee we have in Scotland and that game shows why we don't have any officials going to the Euros.

https://x.com/TrongateTramps/status/17943831711838...

Two pushes in the back within a minute of each other but only one is a foul.




hotchy

4,504 posts

128 months

Monday 27th May
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hongkongdonkey said:
I was a bit worried prior to the game given our recent form and the injuries we at the moment but was relatively pleased with the lineup. The atmosphere in the Rangers end was fantastic, probably the best I've experienced at Hampden. A different approach tactical was perhaps understandable given who we had available and it was obvious a few were playing who were not fit. Celtic hardly threatened at all and looked slow and clueless, they may have had 59% possession but most of that was Scales standing with the ball not knowing what to do with it. Rangers 11 corners to the 3 of celtic perhaps tells more about who was under more pressure. Diomande and Raskin were great in midfield and hopefully a good base to build from for next season. I felt it the goal being chopped off was a bit harsh considering Taylor had both hands around Raskin.

That's the third old form goal Rangers have had against disallowed this season but still the celtic fans think there is a conspiracy against them. Nick Walsh is the best referee we have in Scotland and that game shows why we don't have any officials going to the Euros.

https://x.com/TrongateTramps/status/17943831711838...

Two pushes in the back within a minute of each other but only one is a foul.
A few errors in your thoughts there. Both pushes was deemed not a foul by the ref. Consistent. One was in the box and one was not so VAR could get involved for the one in the box however the push on the rangers player was outside the box. VAR couldn't do anything.

We had 63% possession officially. Imagine only having 37% of the ball. At large times it was less than that.

We also never got a penalty for the handball shown above. Yet consistently over the season have had handballs like that called as penalties. We would have missed it anyway do no big deal.

Taylor did have his hands on raskin. Watch the replay though, that foul was committed after the push on Hart, so the original foul is called first. So again your clutching at straws here.

Goals chopped off so not a ref conspiracy? If the original ref had there way then everyone of those stands yet everyone has proven to be a foul and required VAR to get the correct call. Doesn't that actually support how much help rangers have been given on field by the actual ref, pesky VAR getting decisions correct. All decisions were correct in regard to these illegally scored goals. How the on field ref misses it who knows. Rangers should try scoring goals without fouling.

I get why rangers fans get confused, they've been allowed to get off with more than any club in Scotland. That's not just green tinted specs, just official stats. So when refereed like the rest they don't understand.

Anyway that's 118 vs 118 trophies. Will rangers spend in an attempt to keep there falsely believed most successful tag? I honestly don't see Rodgers losing one more domestic trophy while he is here. Coupled with phillipefilop having a worse record than beale and GVB and going mental at players j can see a total revolt and players chucking him before Christmas. The same reason all his stints beforehand never lasted long.

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hongkongdonkey

578 posts

144 months

Monday 27th May
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hotchy said:
A few errors in your thoughts there. Both pushes was deemed not a foul by the ref. Consistent. One was in the box and one was not so VAR could get involved for the one in the box however the push on the rangers player was outside the box. VAR couldn't do anything.
I don't know if you watched the full clip in the tweet but both pushes were outside the box and called differently by the ref and VAR not involved in either.

hotchy said:
We had 63% possession officially. Imagine only having 37% of the ball. At large times it was less than that.
Fotmob app had it as I quoted. I suppose if there were time it was less than that then there must have been times it was more than that.

hotchy said:
I get why rangers fans get confused, they've been allowed to get off with more than any club in Scotland. That's not just green tinted specs, just official stats. So when refereed like the rest they don't understand.
Rangers have been on the wrong end of more VAR decisions than any other club this season according to the independent review decisions released earlier this month. It's a nonsense to state that they get away with more than any other club.

A couple of interesting quotes from celtic players regarding referees this season.

Scales said:
You come and play in Europe and the referees, you get nothing out of them. They are a lot stricter and tackles that you might get away with domestically, they give.
McGregor said:
in Uefa competitions the leniency isn’t very high.

frank hovis

472 posts

266 months

Monday 27th May
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It’s going to be a interesting summer
Will Rodgers be at Celtic for the new season?
I’m not sure , if he gets a offer to go back to England I think he will be off
Will Clement get backed and get in the players he need’s especially if he loses taveniers goal tally
I think Hearts might struggle with the domestic and European requirements and if they lose shankland , well that’s massive gap to fill

Terzo123

4,347 posts

210 months

Monday 27th May
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I'm fairly certain Rodgers will be at Celtic next season. He's not had much of a chance to bring in his own players as of yet, he should have a decent amount of money to spend this summer, plus has 8 CL games to look forward to.

Is there not still a chance Heart can get direct entry to the group stages of the Europa league? That should be a massive financial boost if that's the case and help with a replacement for Shankland.

As for Phil, hehe

OldPal

40 posts

142 months

Monday 27th May
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Disappointing result on Saturday but thought the manager got the tactics spot on with the squad he had at his disposal. It was a poor game overall though. Also disappointing that the referee and var determined the outcome of the match, sad that these referee’s in Scotland have succumbed and bought into the intimidation and conspiracy theories from Celtic and there fans over recent seasons.

Interesting summer ahead for both clubs as it wasn’t really a vintage season for them. Celtic have the champs league confirmed and the fans want the money spent but can they really justify spending £10m+ on players and the wages that come with that for an 8 game bashing while they are still domestically successful and have other potential liabilities ongoing.

Rangers on the other hand will have to go through qualification although they are seeded it will still be a real challenge. The team needs torn apart and new foundations laid, many of the experienced losers and high earners are out of contract which is a good start. The club need to be ruthless and get this summer recruitment right.
Tav and goldson a one way ticket to Stevie g’s team in Saudi would be a good start.
I think clement has shown that he is capable of rebuilding the team and his prior history at the likes of Brugge show that. It’s up to the board to find the funds as they have let the fans down massively in recent seasons.

In the meantime we’ve all got to look forward to Scotland winning the euro’s!

frank hovis

472 posts

266 months

Monday 27th May
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I think Hearts are in play off round , similar to what Aberdeen had last year , if they lose the drop in to conference group stages
So could be some tough games there , its difficult playing Thursday Sunday with the squads outwith the Glasgow two

malks222

1,885 posts

141 months

Monday 3rd June
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back to winning ways for scotland, didn’t see any of the game, but seems like a fairly laboured performance. but a wins a win, and that’s been clarkes strength with the team, might not be pretty, but it’s results that matter!

bring on friday night at hampden, get in the spirit before germany. sadly won’t be at the opening/ german game, but will be there for the swiss! very excited for the euros!

abzmike

8,677 posts

108 months

Monday 3rd June
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25 shots and 5 on target highlights the main problem.
Ok as a run out, but the first 11 really need to be wrapped in cotton wool.

malks222

1,885 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th June
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no excitement for the euros in here?!?

bunch of friends are all in germany now for the opening game. kinda gutted i picked the second game instead of the opening game against germany, but hopefully means my euros excitement last until the second week!

my head says we get pumped by germany, but there’s a little part of me that says we sneak a draw…… i’m also all in for a win against the swiss!! and then by the time we play hungary we’re already out the group and it doesn’t even matter……. ok maybe i need to calm my expectations….. but we can dream!

CivicDuties

5,180 posts

32 months

Thursday 13th June
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JuniorD

8,674 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th June
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Scotland rarely fail to disappoint. I reckon it will be three turgid 0-0 draws. A textbook case of so far, yet so close.

CivicDuties

5,180 posts

32 months

Thursday 13th June
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Germany 3-1 Scotland

Switzerland 2-0 Scotland

Hungary 1-1 Scotland.

The usual.

I ardently hope I'm wrong.

malks222

1,885 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th June
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awww c’mon! where’s the optimism?!?! rofl

I have no idea what to expect from the games, but Im going for a 2-0 scotland win against the swiss!

I think this is our time, I think we’ll make it out the group! and yes i’ll take being the last 3rd place team scraping through……

CivicDuties

5,180 posts

32 months

Thursday 13th June
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malks222 said:
awww c’mon! where’s the optimism?!?! rofl

I have no idea what to expect from the games, but Im going for a 2-0 scotland win against the swiss!

I think this is our time, I think we’ll make it out the group! and yes i’ll take being the last 3rd place team scraping through……
malks, I shall have a nice cold pint of whatever it is you're smoking, and sit down to enjoy the match tomorrow evening, in the hope that you are right. I'd take that outcome too, I'd be delighted.

beer