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simoid said:
Perhaps the player saw the procession of Celtic signings who get plonked out on loan then sold on and didn’t fancy being one. I did read his main factor was first team football so fair play if so. Celtic will inevitably put forward the view that it was agent/money/unreasonable player to save face.
We’re in new ground if Celtic can’t sign a teenager from Motherwell, despite wheeling the captain out talking about it in press conferences, tweeting about him, etc. Looks very amateur.
Don't a lot teams send young players out on loan, or players than haven't made the grade? We’re in new ground if Celtic can’t sign a teenager from Motherwell, despite wheeling the captain out talking about it in press conferences, tweeting about him, etc. Looks very amateur.
What's the processions of players loaned out and then punted? I can't think of many and certainly not sizeable investments.
It looks as if he is potentially going to Norwich now. If he isn't going to get a game at Celtic I can't see a 19 year old getting thrown in at the deep end with a club likely fighting relegation. It wouldn't be a surprise if Norwich loaned him back up here.
You criticised Celtic for spending money on a player, that only played well for 6 months,
and praised Rangers for cheap dealings. Now you're criticising Celtic for not giving into excessive wage demands?
His agent is asking for money that'll make him one of the highest earning players at the club. He sounds like a talented guy, but how could a young lad from Motherwell command higher wages than established international players?
Driver101 said:
Don't a lot teams send young players out on loan, or players than haven't made the grade?
What's the processions of players loaned out and then punted? I can't think of many and certainly not sizeable investments.
It looks as if he is potentially going to Norwich now. If he isn't going to get a game at Celtic I can't see a 19 year old getting thrown in at the deep end with a club likely fighting relegation. It wouldn't be a surprise if Norwich loaned him back up here.
You criticised Celtic for spending money on a player, that only played well for 6 months,
and praised Rangers for cheap dealings. Now you're criticising Celtic for not giving into excessive wage demands?
His agent is asking for money that'll make him one of the highest earning players at the club. He sounds like a talented guy, but how could a young lad from Motherwell command higher wages than established international players?
They do, yes. A common model for the giant teams.What's the processions of players loaned out and then punted? I can't think of many and certainly not sizeable investments.
It looks as if he is potentially going to Norwich now. If he isn't going to get a game at Celtic I can't see a 19 year old getting thrown in at the deep end with a club likely fighting relegation. It wouldn't be a surprise if Norwich loaned him back up here.
You criticised Celtic for spending money on a player, that only played well for 6 months,
and praised Rangers for cheap dealings. Now you're criticising Celtic for not giving into excessive wage demands?
His agent is asking for money that'll make him one of the highest earning players at the club. He sounds like a talented guy, but how could a young lad from Motherwell command higher wages than established international players?
Off the top of my head, Scott Allan, Scepovic, Bangura, Janko, those sorts of folk. Rangers have had plenty too.
Did I criticise Celtic for spending money? I know nothing of the wage demands. I know only that the lad from Motherwell had Celtic chasing him down and pulling out ALL the stops to sign him, and failed. I note that is unusual. I speculate here, obviously, but perhaps a young player like Turnbull would have less of a problem signing for Brendan Rodgers instead of Neil Lennon.
simoid said:
Driver101 said:
Don't a lot teams send young players out on loan, or players than haven't made the grade?
What's the processions of players loaned out and then punted? I can't think of many and certainly not sizeable investments.
It looks as if he is potentially going to Norwich now. If he isn't going to get a game at Celtic I can't see a 19 year old getting thrown in at the deep end with a club likely fighting relegation. It wouldn't be a surprise if Norwich loaned him back up here.
You criticised Celtic for spending money on a player, that only played well for 6 months,
and praised Rangers for cheap dealings. Now you're criticising Celtic for not giving into excessive wage demands?
His agent is asking for money that'll make him one of the highest earning players at the club. He sounds like a talented guy, but how could a young lad from Motherwell command higher wages than established international players?
They do, yes. A common model for the giant teams.What's the processions of players loaned out and then punted? I can't think of many and certainly not sizeable investments.
It looks as if he is potentially going to Norwich now. If he isn't going to get a game at Celtic I can't see a 19 year old getting thrown in at the deep end with a club likely fighting relegation. It wouldn't be a surprise if Norwich loaned him back up here.
You criticised Celtic for spending money on a player, that only played well for 6 months,
and praised Rangers for cheap dealings. Now you're criticising Celtic for not giving into excessive wage demands?
His agent is asking for money that'll make him one of the highest earning players at the club. He sounds like a talented guy, but how could a young lad from Motherwell command higher wages than established international players?
Off the top of my head, Scott Allan, ,Scepovic Bangura, Janko, those sorts of folk. Rangers have had plenty too.
Did I criticise Celtic for spending money? I know nothing of the wage demands. I know only that the lad from Motherwell had Celtic chasing him down and pulling out ALL the stops to sign him, and failed. I note that is unusual. I speculate here, obviously, but perhaps a young player like Turnbull would have less of a problem signing for Brendan Rodgers instead of Neil Lennon.
At the other end of the scale there is quite a few first team players like McGregor, Ayer, Christie, Rogic in the first team that were all sent out to develop. It's not just a giant team thing.
You read nothing about his wage demands which are headline news, but read about his desire for first team football? You seemed interested in this transfer too.
I think you're speculating far too much. If his agent got the money he's demanding the deal would be done.
If Norwich come up with premier league wages he'll likely move there. I would guess his first team action would be limited and probably be out on loan.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 19th June 21:26
Ach the transfers were just off the top of my head. It’s not a slight on Celtic it’s just a general thing that some transfers go well but most don’t.
I like to assume the best from people before proven otherwise, and tend not to believe what speculation I read in the papers especially if it’s about old firm transfers. So naturally I’ll think Turnbull wants to play football and not rinse maximum short term monetary gain. An acceptable contract offer to him from an EPL club might well change his mind all the same.
I like to assume the best from people before proven otherwise, and tend not to believe what speculation I read in the papers especially if it’s about old firm transfers. So naturally I’ll think Turnbull wants to play football and not rinse maximum short term monetary gain. An acceptable contract offer to him from an EPL club might well change his mind all the same.
simoid said:
Driver101 said:
Don't a lot teams send young players out on loan, or players than haven't made the grade?
What's the processions of players loaned out and then punted? I can't think of many and certainly not sizeable investments.
It looks as if he is potentially going to Norwich now. If he isn't going to get a game at Celtic I can't see a 19 year old getting thrown in at the deep end with a club likely fighting relegation. It wouldn't be a surprise if Norwich loaned him back up here.
You criticised Celtic for spending money on a player, that only played well for 6 months,
and praised Rangers for cheap dealings. Now you're criticising Celtic for not giving into excessive wage demands?
His agent is asking for money that'll make him one of the highest earning players at the club. He sounds like a talented guy, but how could a young lad from Motherwell command higher wages than established international players?
They do, yes. A common model for the giant teams.What's the processions of players loaned out and then punted? I can't think of many and certainly not sizeable investments.
It looks as if he is potentially going to Norwich now. If he isn't going to get a game at Celtic I can't see a 19 year old getting thrown in at the deep end with a club likely fighting relegation. It wouldn't be a surprise if Norwich loaned him back up here.
You criticised Celtic for spending money on a player, that only played well for 6 months,
and praised Rangers for cheap dealings. Now you're criticising Celtic for not giving into excessive wage demands?
His agent is asking for money that'll make him one of the highest earning players at the club. He sounds like a talented guy, but how could a young lad from Motherwell command higher wages than established international players?
Off the top of my head, Scott Allan, Scepovic, Bangura, Janko, those sorts of folk. Rangers have had plenty too.
Did I criticise Celtic for spending money? I know nothing of the wage demands. I know only that the lad from Motherwell had Celtic chasing him down and pulling out ALL the stops to sign him, and failed. I note that is unusual. I speculate here, obviously, but perhaps a young player like Turnbull would have less of a problem signing for Brendan Rodgers instead of Neil Lennon.
Big fish in a small pond yes, but surely not "giant teams"?
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
You bet against your country?!
What does eveyryone think about how the game ended?
Regardless. fair play to the ladies for their effort.
Women's football? Who actually gives a fWhat does eveyryone think about how the game ended?
Regardless. fair play to the ladies for their effort.
k?Apart from the BBC that is.
Manger f
ked it completely up for Scotland, failing to freshen up players at 3 nil up and to take your foot off the gas. I can't really find myself to get bothered about it.
Listening to all the transfer rumours and massive fees, this article shows one way Scottish teams are always going to be diddy teams in a European context.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/footb...
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/footb...
JuniorD said:
Say the keeper makes the illegal move off the line, but the penalty taker scores, has it to be retaken?
Goal counts. There was a handy table I saw somewhere but I can’t find it. Basically it was as you’d expect - ie encroachment would only result in action if it benefitted the team committing the offence.Edinburger said:
You're suggesting Rangers and Celtic are "giant teams"?
Big fish in a small pond yes, but surely not "giant teams"?
With regards to up young players and loaning them out I was more thinking of the regular champions league knockout teams, but the term giant is all relative I suppose.Big fish in a small pond yes, but surely not "giant teams"?
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