Steve Kean

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George H

14,708 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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ClintonB said:
Is this going to be one of those protest/marches where a bunch of fans walk from a pub they were going to be at anyway to a match they were already going to, by their normal route, just holding Steve Kean-Out out placards?
If so, it will most likely do bugger all good, just like the abuse (even though I have a modicum of sympathy).


Perhaps a good alternative would be for all disaffected fans to stay away for a few games. A kick in the wallet for a couple of weeks might pique the attention of the Bernard Matthews appreciation society (Indian branch).
I think there are quite a lot of fans not going to games at the minute anyway, they're doing ridiculous offers to get people to go. I think it was 3 games for £20.

Also, my friend who goes to every game told me that quite a few people were carrying banners/wearing t shirts etc that blame the Venkys not Kean. Don't know how true it is, but have no reason to disbelieve him.

Turbo5

594 posts

213 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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I am definately not a Blackburn Rovers fan, in fact quite the opposite as I live in Burnley the next town 7 miles away. (A 6 fingered Dingle according to the wovers fans at Deadwood) The rivalry between both clubs has always been fierce and each set of fans thrive on the others misfortune.
Since Jack Walkers millions we have had to live in their shadow in terms of league position but now the tide is turning.
When the Walker trust sold its shares to the Venky's (Indian Chicken farmers) Its been a dream to the Burnley fans. The daily ridiculing of BlackBurn Fans at work has been bliss, usually its been the other way around for the past 33 years, so revenge is sweet. Burnley only ever won in the hooligan stakes either by smashing up the Blackburn ground or town or if they can't get at Blackburn fans their own town is fair game and they will fight amongst themselves.

The story so far
Chicken farmer owners who know nothing about football and only wanted the club to promote their Chicken brand buy B'Rovers
Sack Big Sam (why ????)
Appoint an Idiot Abroad Steve Kean (check out a you tube clip on this)
Publically link themselves to big name signings, the likes of Ronaldino etc as if ? they would struggle tempting people away from Accrington Stanley
Really embarrasing video of the team in the dressing room making a Venky chicken advert. (Tears in my eyes watching it, its on you tube)
Manager gets done for Drink and driving
Player gets done for drink and driving
Roar the Lion Mascot gets done for kiddy fiddling
Every week from his 7 wins from 38 matches he makes some stupid excuse about being beat, this guy has more excuses than Gordon Brown.
Beaten by the bottom club Bolton at home who have an ex Burnley manager as their manager Judas Coyle
Fans and people of the town fighting amongst themselves as they disagree on teh treatment of the Players whilst a match is on.
The moral of the town at the moment, even Jack Straw has got involved.

As you can imagine Kean is a hero in Burnley, he would be cheered and welcomed where ever he went, Perhaps he can switch on the Christmas lights. Rumour has it he is on the pay role of Burnley hence his nickname Agent Kean.
God save the Kean

phil-sti

2,696 posts

181 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Turbo, did somebody type that for you, lots of long words for a burnley fan?

ClintonB

4,721 posts

215 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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George H said:
I think there are quite a lot of fans not going to games at the minute anyway, they're doing ridiculous offers to get people to go. I think it was 3 games for £20.

Also, my friend who goes to every game told me that quite a few people were carrying banners/wearing t shirts etc that blame the Venkys not Kean. Don't know how true it is, but have no reason to disbelieve him.
If ESPN is to be believed then 21k+ for every home game this season and getting on for 26 against Bolton. Even subtracting a bullst element & taking into account cheap ticket prices, that isn't too bad in a little town like Blackburn with a crap team & supposedly the most hated leader since Muammar Gaddafi.
However, a couple of home games with fewer than 5,000 on (season tickets or not) would do far more than a few more wker shouts & Steve Kean-Out out flags made from crusty sheets. Imagine the publicity of a Prem League game played for the benefit of the mice.


As for the stuff going on inside Ewood, looked fairly biased towards Blackburn's least popular Scot to me with the Venkys being very much first loser.


Personally, I hope he stays to the end of the season - one less relegation rival wink

Edited by ClintonB on Thursday 22 December 23:04

Turbo5

594 posts

213 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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phil-sti said:
Turbo, did somebody type that for you, lots of long words for a burnley fan?
I got my Aunty sister to do for me. LOL

U T

43,690 posts

152 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Xeno said:
U T said:
In any job, if you are on a fixed term contract, you get paid up until the end of your contract, if they want you to go early.

Not just football, that's the same in any walk of life.
Surely they put performance related clauses in there?
You could certainly put in place a contract with break clauses. Eg. "you have a contract for 2 yrs, but after 3 months if you haven't achieved X, the contact can be cancelled. After 6 months you must achieve Y" etc etc.

What you put int he contract depends on how badly you want to recruit whoever you're after. Also, the employee could stipulate that the employer must provide X & Y in order for the job to be done.

BrabusMog

20,251 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Turbo5 said:
I am definately not a Blackburn Rovers fan, in fact quite the opposite as I live in Burnley the next town 7 miles away. (A 6 fingered Dingle according to the wovers fans at Deadwood) The rivalry between both clubs has always been fierce and each set of fans thrive on the others misfortune.
Since Jack Walkers millions we have had to live in their shadow in terms of league position but now the tide is turning.
When the Walker trust sold its shares to the Venky's (Indian Chicken farmers) Its been a dream to the Burnley fans. The daily ridiculing of BlackBurn Fans at work has been bliss, usually its been the other way around for the past 33 years, so revenge is sweet. Burnley only ever won in the hooligan stakes either by smashing up the Blackburn ground or town or if they can't get at Blackburn fans their own town is fair game and they will fight amongst themselves.

The story so far
Chicken farmer owners who know nothing about football and only wanted the club to promote their Chicken brand buy B'Rovers
Sack Big Sam (why ????)
Appoint an Idiot Abroad Steve Kean (check out a you tube clip on this)
Publically link themselves to big name signings, the likes of Ronaldino etc as if ? they would struggle tempting people away from Accrington Stanley
Really embarrasing video of the team in the dressing room making a Venky chicken advert. (Tears in my eyes watching it, its on you tube)
Manager gets done for Drink and driving
Player gets done for drink and driving
Roar the Lion Mascot gets done for kiddy fiddling
Every week from his 7 wins from 38 matches he makes some stupid excuse about being beat, this guy has more excuses than Gordon Brown.
Beaten by the bottom club Bolton at home who have an ex Burnley manager as their manager Judas Coyle
Fans and people of the town fighting amongst themselves as they disagree on teh treatment of the Players whilst a match is on.
The moral of the town at the moment, even Jack Straw has got involved.

As you can imagine Kean is a hero in Burnley, he would be cheered and welcomed where ever he went, Perhaps he can switch on the Christmas lights. Rumour has it he is on the pay role of Burnley hence his nickname Agent Kean.
God save the Kean
We had your lot at Upton Park a few weeks back, possibly the sttest bunch of fans to have ever meekly sung a few songs (that you copied from us) at the Boleyn.

ClintonB

4,721 posts

215 months

Saturday 24th December 2011
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The chap seems to be getting a lot of peer support this week (possibly unsurprisingly).

I suspect he's probably from the Sammy Lee school of management and as such, I wonder if he'd benefit from a bit of experienced support (as Bryan Robson had from Venables at 'boro).
Is there anyone available that would suit the bill?

U T

43,690 posts

152 months

Saturday 31st December 2011
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Well well, the supposedly useless Keen gets you lot of moaning Rovers fans a win at O.T, and probably your best day out since S&S were playing up front. Still hate him??

NoNeed

15,137 posts

202 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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U T said:
Well well, the supposedly useless Keen gets you lot of moaning Rovers fans a win at O.T, and probably your best day out since S&S were playing up front. Still hate him??
If he carries on like that they will have to make some "kean in" banners lol

MadMullah

5,265 posts

195 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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regardless of whats happened at OT

If you showed the statistics of his games/win etc that would speak for itself

one win at OT is great but it doesnt save anyone's season.

United by their own standard were poor and injury ridden. if kean can build on this then good for him however if this is just something of a blip then can you really blame the fans for not liking the manager?

Negative Creep

25,020 posts

229 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Even if he was sacked, who in their right mind would want to manage Blackburn?

Another stunning victory for the FAs Fit and Proper Owners test

Countdown

40,201 posts

198 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Negative Creep said:
Even if he was sacked, who in their right mind would want to manage Blackburn?

Another stunning victory for the FAs Fit and Proper Owners test
I'm pretty sure there isn't a Footballing competency clause in the FA test.

U T

43,690 posts

152 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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MadMullah said:
can you really blame the fans for not liking the manager?
The fans not liking the manager is one thing, but the vitriol aimed at Keen who appears to be a decent human being is something else entirely.

Robbo66

3,839 posts

235 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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U T said:
MadMullah said:
can you really blame the fans for not liking the manager?
The fans not liking the manager is one thing, but the vitriol aimed at Keen who appears to be a decent human being is something else entirely.
Yes, but this is oikball, what do you expect ?. The vitriol being spouted are from those who have nothing else in their sorry little lives to shout about. They're not 'fans' they are a bitter example of a desperate section of society who if they put 10% of the effort they inject into swearing and boozing on a Saturday afternoon, into their families or careers, would find that football actually means zero in the grand scheme of things.

Steameh

3,155 posts

212 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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U T said:
The fans not liking the manager is one thing, but the vitriol aimed at Keen who appears to be a decent human being is something else entirely.
Decent human being is marginal, all sympathy I had for Kean was lost when he got convicted of drink driving and an 18 month ban.

U T

43,690 posts

152 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Steameh said:
U T said:
The fans not liking the manager is one thing, but the vitriol aimed at Keen who appears to be a decent human being is something else entirely.
Decent human being is marginal, all sympathy I had for Kean was lost when he got convicted of drink driving and an 18 month ban.
I've I was manager of a club with fans like Blackburn's, I'd turn to alcohol too!

Negative Creep

25,020 posts

229 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Countdown said:
Negative Creep said:
Even if he was sacked, who in their right mind would want to manage Blackburn?

Another stunning victory for the FAs Fit and Proper Owners test
I'm pretty sure there isn't a Footballing competency clause in the FA test.
I was refering to the owners. I am right in thinking only one person has ever failed it?

Countdown

40,201 posts

198 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Negative Creep said:
Countdown said:
Negative Creep said:
Even if he was sacked, who in their right mind would want to manage Blackburn?

Another stunning victory for the FAs Fit and Proper Owners test
I'm pretty sure there isn't a Footballing competency clause in the FA test.
I was refering to the owners. I am right in thinking only one person has ever failed it?
So was I. My understanding is that the FA FAPPtest is targeted mainly at people with criminal convictions or those who have taken a club into administration. The Venkys meet neither of those criteria so the "Fit and Proper" test is irrelevant. The "Fit & Proper" test does not bar owners who make crap decisions regarding Managers, transfers etc.

Apologies if we're talking at cross-purposes smile

Xeno

304 posts

183 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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United only lost because Steve Kean is a tactical genius.