The Official Scottish Football Thread

The Official Scottish Football Thread

TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED
Author
Discussion

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
simoid said:
Have you considered how calling a visitor to our country an “absolute animal” and wishing his departure could be construed? This is one of the most talented immigrants we have seen in the country and you’ve let yourself down with that sort of metaphor. See how you get on at Easter Road with a banner telling him to go home.
I'm sure that anyone that has witnessed his conduct since being here would understand Edinburger's point.

Twisting what he said, to mean something other than it did, to suggest Edinburger is in some form racist is poor from you.

DocJock

8,391 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
As a non-Rangers fan he frustrates me.

He can be very, very good, and he gets as much stick as he dishes out. He just seems unable to process the fact that he can't behave like that without sanction. Every single time he gets booked there's that quizzical, non-understanding expression on his coupon. Surely it must start to sink in soon?

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
On the topic of not being able to call a black immigrant an animal due to his conduct.......

Rangers players, fans and media all call him The Buffalo.............

There isn't any outrage about that.

simoid

19,772 posts

160 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
Driver101 said:
simoid said:
Have you considered how calling a visitor to our country an “absolute animal” and wishing his departure could be construed? This is one of the most talented immigrants we have seen in the country and you’ve let yourself down with that sort of metaphor. See how you get on at Easter Road with a banner telling him to go home.
I'm sure that anyone that has witnessed his conduct since being here would understand Edinburger's point.

Twisting what he said, to mean something other than it did, to suggest Edinburger is in some form racist is poor from you.
Thanks for the partial quote taking it out of context rolleyes

The context of the rest of the post was inviting Edinburger to consider both Morelos growth against others, similar (white Scottish Hibernian) who are young/daft/reckless. I don’t know why he has a vendetta against Morelos but would welcome racist Griffiths back to Easter Road too, for example.

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
simoid said:
Driver101 said:
simoid said:
Have you considered how calling a visitor to our country an “absolute animal” and wishing his departure could be construed? This is one of the most talented immigrants we have seen in the country and you’ve let yourself down with that sort of metaphor. See how you get on at Easter Road with a banner telling him to go home.
I'm sure that anyone that has witnessed his conduct since being here would understand Edinburger's point.

Twisting what he said, to mean something other than it did, to suggest Edinburger is in some form racist is poor from you.
Thanks for the partial quote taking it out of context rolleyes

The context of the rest of the post was inviting Edinburger to consider both Morelos growth against others, similar (white Scottish Hibernian) who are young/daft/reckless. I don’t know why he has a vendetta against Morelos but would welcome racist Griffiths back to Easter Road too, for example.
Desperately flapping here Simoid.

The first part of the post has little bearing on the rest of the point.

The Hibs guy that got sent off last night.....is anyone pulling the young reckless white guy excuse? As far as I can see everyone has simply said it was a malicious and fully deserving of punishment.

To suggest that anyone is making excuses for white players and attacking black players is absolute drivel. You're embarrassing yourself trying to put a racist spin on this.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
Driver101 said:
simoid said:
Driver101 said:
simoid said:
Have you considered how calling a visitor to our country an “absolute animal” and wishing his departure could be construed? This is one of the most talented immigrants we have seen in the country and you’ve let yourself down with that sort of metaphor. See how you get on at Easter Road with a banner telling him to go home.
I'm sure that anyone that has witnessed his conduct since being here would understand Edinburger's point.

Twisting what he said, to mean something other than it did, to suggest Edinburger is in some form racist is poor from you.
Thanks for the partial quote taking it out of context rolleyes

The context of the rest of the post was inviting Edinburger to consider both Morelos growth against others, similar (white Scottish Hibernian) who are young/daft/reckless. I don’t know why he has a vendetta against Morelos but would welcome racist Griffiths back to Easter Road too, for example.
Desperately flapping here Simoid.

The first part of the post has little bearing on the rest of the point.

The Hibs guy that got sent off last night.....is anyone pulling the young reckless white guy excuse? As far as I can see everyone has simply said it was a malicious and fully deserving of punishment.

To suggest that anyone is making excuses for white players and attacking black players is absolute drivel. You're embarrassing yourself trying to put a racist spin on this.
Hang on a second, why is this turned into a racial debate? He behaves like an out of control animal. Fact. He has no self-control which is why he has alone had more red cards this season than any other club. My point was not racist and I am absolutely not a racist person. Are we now saying we can’t criticise any non-Caucasian people for fear of being branded racist?

I’ve always said Morelos is a poor role-model for children young footballers. I am involved in kids football and will be much happier when he is out the Scottish game. I also don’t rate him much as a player and certainly my not as a person. That’s my view. Purely subjective. But I would not care whether he was black, white, pink or purple.

simoid

19,772 posts

160 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
Er, he’s had 1 red card this season - andit was for 2 yellows? The rage you have for him is peculiar and based on false information if you think he’s had more reds than any club this season.

I’m trying to fathom why he’s singled out when his behaviour . It can’t exclusively be his behaviour as it’s not dissimilar to many in our game. Massive talent, discipline issue last season and much improved. The lad is an incredible success story in the making, and already. And some Scottish football want him out the country.

It’s because he’s at Rangers, magic, or foreign. If it’s exclusively the first two, then fair enough.

RDM

1,860 posts

209 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
simoid said:
It’s because he’s at Rangers, magic, or foreign. If it’s exclusively the first two, then fair enough.
Maybe it’s none of the above. Maybe it’s that after a game where Hibs fans bottle an injured player it’s much better to have a lengthy discussion about a player who wasn’t even playing. Diversion and all that.

DocJock

8,391 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
He's suffering for his reputation from last season. Unfair, I know, but the ref's have him in their sights.

It's happened before and it'll happen again, but he's flavour of the year currently.

technodup

7,585 posts

132 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
Edinburger said:
I also don’t rate him much as a player
You'd be wking him off for half his goals tally ffs. Striker scores 27 goals before Xmas, Burger doesn't rate him... hehe

In other news I'm talking to a bird on a dating app who is very obviously a MAJOR Celtic fan, to the point where she pretty much says to avoid her if you're not. Can I claim to not be into football long enough to pump her? Can I even get it up in a room full of pics of Larsson or Sutton or whoever? Will I have to withdraw and unload elsewhere?

I'll keep you updated. smile





Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
He managed no more than a few months without exploding. That's not reformed in anyone's book surely?

How he never got sent off three times over against Celtic nobody knows. It's only papered over as Celtic won and he had a howler.

He can't control himself. When the pressure is on he simply can't hack it.

Loads of teams are in need of a good striker. There is a reason nobody is wanting to touch him.

RDM said:
simoid said:
It’s because he’s at Rangers, magic, or foreign. If it’s exclusively the first two, then fair enough.
Maybe it’s none of the above. Maybe it’s that after a game where Hibs fans bottle an injured player it’s much better to have a lengthy discussion about a player who wasn’t even playing. Diversion and all that.
It was Rangers fans who brought him into the conversation. Firstly saying is was wrong to yellow card him at Motherwell(when it was not)and then the bizarre racism card being pulled.


Again NOBODY is making excuses for Hibs.

Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 21st December 13:23

DocJock

8,391 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
Aw go on. We need some fking good excuses at the moment...

technodup

7,585 posts

132 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
Driver101 said:
Loads of teams are in need of a good striker. There is a reason nobody is wanting to touch him.
I don't see this comment ageing well.

Lots of clubs take chances on players with suspect temperaments. Take Joey Barton for one obvious example. Or Cantona who did something worse than hack a player down. Not to mention the various ones who have been in the jail, Pennant, Ferguson, Evans, that paedo one I can't remember his name...

The idea that faltering Premier League clubs have a higher regard for players moral standards than their need for survival points is some major wishful thinking.

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
technodup said:
Driver101 said:
Loads of teams are in need of a good striker. There is a reason nobody is wanting to touch him.
I don't see this comment ageing well.

Lots of clubs take chances on players with suspect temperaments. Take Joey Barton for one obvious example. Or Cantona who did something worse than hack a player down. Not to mention the various ones who have been in the jail, Pennant, Ferguson, Evans, that paedo one I can't remember his name...

The idea that faltering Premier League clubs have a higher regard for players moral standards than their need for survival points is some major wishful thinking.
They are mostly known for their incidents off the park rather than on it. Fair point that teams have managed to overlook some seriously bad convictions and issues.

You could argue Barton's career was hindered by his antics. He's not the only one.

Cantona was already a Man Utd hero. That's why they stood by him.


Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
Edouard the top scorer in the league now. Cosgrove now the joint second highest.

It didn't sound as if Aberdeen offered anything. One shot for the goal and another off target from a free-kick in injury time.

The radio said the Cosgrove tackle was the same as last night.

Hearts losing to Hamilton and slumping to last is the biggest story. No new manager impact there. They have to be worried.

JuniorD

8,672 posts

225 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
technodup said:
ou'd be wking him off for half his goals tally ffs. Striker scores 27 goals before Xmas, Burger doesn't rate him... hehe

In other news I'm talking to a bird on a dating app who is very obviously a MAJOR Celtic fan, to the point where she pretty much says to avoid her if you're not. Can I claim to not be into football long enough to pump her? Can I even get it up in a room full of pics of Larsson or Sutton or whoever? Will I have to withdraw and unload elsewhere?

I'll keep you updated. smile
Interesting conundrum.

Begs the question, if a girl had a rule that said I will not bang an XYZ fan, and an XYZ fan denied his allegiance to get his sack emptied with her, would he have committed a crime?




technodup

7,585 posts

132 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
quotequote all
JuniorD said:
Interesting conundrum.

Begs the question, if a girl had a rule that said I will not bang an XYZ fan, and an XYZ fan denied his allegiance to get his sack emptied with her, would he have committed a crime?
A crime? I think plenty worse lies get told to get your hole tbh.


Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
quotequote all
technodup said:
ou'd be wking him off for half his goals tally ffs. Striker scores 27 goals before Xmas, Burger doesn't rate him... hehe

In other news I'm talking to a bird on a dating app who is very obviously a MAJOR Celtic fan, to the point where she pretty much says to avoid her if you're not. Can I claim to not be into football long enough to pump her? Can I even get it up in a room full of pics of Larsson or Sutton or whoever? Will I have to withdraw and unload elsewhere?

I'll keep you updated. smile
I missed this. Maybe not update us. Maybe save your tall tales for the dating thread where nobody believes you either?

If in the slightest it is true, maybe not manipulate a vulnerable girl?

Sounds very beast like tales. It's weirdo behaviour for behind closed doors and not something you admit you lower yourself to.

Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 22 December 02:23

Kakopetria

202 posts

109 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
quotequote all
Sorry Driver what makes her vulnerable? The fact that she’s on a dating site or that she supports Celtic?
Or maybe Techno’s just pulling our chain.

JuniorD

8,672 posts

225 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
quotequote all
technodup said:
JuniorD said:
Interesting conundrum.

Begs the question, if a girl had a rule that said I will not bang an XYZ fan, and an XYZ fan denied his allegiance to get his sack emptied with her, would he have committed a crime?
A crime? I think plenty worse lies get told to get your hole tbh.
Well if consent is conditional, and the condition is not met...doesn’t that mean any action is non-consensual?

TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED