The Official Everton thread - Vol 2

The Official Everton thread - Vol 2

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Blib

44,364 posts

199 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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P. ONeill said:
mickk said:
You're going to be known as Man City Asterisk .
They’ll probably be given Everton’s 10 points.
It's the Chelsea fans I'm most concerned about.

Who will they scurry to next, once the club gets relegated?


Fast Bug

11,787 posts

163 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Blib said:
It's the Chelsea fans I'm most concerned about.

Who will they scurry to next, once the club gets relegated?
Newcastle

Blib

44,364 posts

199 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Fast Bug said:
Blib said:
It's the Chelsea fans I'm most concerned about.

Who will they scurry to next, once the club gets relegated?
Newcastle
Good call.

mickk

29,019 posts

244 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Blib said:
It's the Chelsea fans I'm most concerned about.

Who will they scurry to next, once the club gets relegated?
I'm concerned that you're concerned about Chelsea fans.

epom

11,677 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Fast Bug

11,787 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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I wish we were playing today. I think the atmosphere at Goodison would be electric and we'd give anyone a game right now

hilly10

7,182 posts

230 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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I am hoping we stuff most teams at Goodison I am certain the fans are going to make it hell for opposing teams .

Blue62

8,969 posts

154 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Fast Bug said:
I wish we were playing today. I think the atmosphere at Goodison would be electric and we'd give anyone a game right now
I’ve been wishfully thinking similar, like this could actually be a real turning point, but it’s Everton. I do think they’ve opened a real can of worms here, I’m hearing that our appeal will centre around the dismissal of our mitigating circumstances and the arbitrary nature of the punishment.

TEKNOPUG

19,040 posts

207 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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What are the mitigating circumstances - all the players you bought were st and so you didn't gain any competitive advantage?

Acorn1

690 posts

22 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Looks like Everton could be proper fked!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...

Further 9 point deduction and £300m fine! Wtf?

Fast Bug

11,787 posts

163 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
What are the mitigating circumstances - all the players you bought were st and so you didn't gain any competitive advantage?
Loss of sponsorship from Russia and "player x" who we could neither play nor sell so had to write him off the books whilst still playing him. We valued him at £10m, panel said that's not his true value but allegedly we had a bid of £12m for him before his alleged charges.

Acorn1 said:
Looks like Everton could be proper fked!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...

Further 9 point deduction and £300m fine! Wtf?
A) I wouldn't believe anything the Mail writes
B) the panel said we didn't get a competitive advantage
C) surely they need to chase the PL as its them that took the time to bring the case; and they were signing our accounts off and set us a salary cap to keep us on the right side financially
D) we could only relegate 1 club per season for being ste

I'm also ignoring the fact that Leicester broke ffp to get in to the PL in the first place. So could that could trigger claims from other clubs against them?

hilly10

7,182 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Acorn1 said:
Looks like Everton could be proper fked!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...

Further 9 point deduction and £300m fine! Wtf?
Click bait and a load of bkss

Our defence is quite easy, we never set the time for the outcome the PL did or their adjudicators did we cannot be held responsible for that

Edited by hilly10 on Sunday 19th November 10:55

Acorn1

690 posts

22 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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hilly10 said:
Click bait and a load of bkss
I hope so.

johnboy1975

8,438 posts

110 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Ffs we'll have Arsenal suing us for beating them 1-0 and "derailing" their title bid next spin

WTF are Leeds suing us for? That if the points had gone on last season, they'd have finished 18th instead of 19th?? I'm not seeing the 100m loss...

How much are we suing Collina for for the dodgy reffing in the CL qualifier in 2005? If we'd got through that we'd probably have won the whole thing and used the cash to (legitimately) dominate the PL for the next 15 years. It's got to be 500m, minimum spin

Ireland should sue Henry for the handball goal. Denied them a clear run at winning the world cup.

Etc

Having got all that off my chest, Leicester (and Burnley if they finished 17th the preceding season) have a bona fida issue...with the PL and their rules. We submitted our accounts for this period years ago (I think?) and the issue has been rumbling on since then.

A 6 point deduction would (perhaps) have relegated us / "saved" them from a season in the championship, of which Burnley bounced straight back up with 100 points, and Leicester look set to do similar. So they are both down 100m TV money, but up a parachute payment which is quite high in the first year I think?

NB Obviously they can't both be affected, we'd only have got relegated once. Maybe they can sue each other smile

Drabbesttunic

1,280 posts

42 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Acorn1 said:
hilly10 said:
Click bait and a load of bkss
I hope so.
Yes its the mail, utter wkers.
Hopefully this is it for you guys and you can crack on, probably a good time to get it done and over with, there's some utter dross in the prem and you are playing well.


hilly10

7,182 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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We complied and supplied all accounts required for them to come to the decision they did, it is no fault our ours it was decided last Friday, and not in April or May I cannot see how Burnley Leeds or Leicester have any beef with us, they should blame the PL wkers

alfa phil

2,109 posts

209 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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It's all a bit complicated. I can't see us getting any more points deducted but think that will be evened up by the appeal being rejected .
fk em all let's just go out and kick some arses.

johnboy1975

8,438 posts

110 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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johnboy1975 said:
Ffs we'll have Arsenal suing us for beating them 1-0 and "derailing" their title bid next spin

WTF are Leeds suing us for? That if the points had gone on last season, they'd have finished 18th instead of 19th?? I'm not seeing the 100m loss...

How much are we suing Collina for for the dodgy reffing in the CL qualifier in 2005? If we'd got through that we'd probably have won the whole thing and used the cash to (legitimately) dominate the PL for the next 15 years. It's got to be 500m, minimum spin

Ireland should sue Henry for the handball goal. Denied them a clear run at winning the world cup.

Edit: possibly of interest smilehttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/582308/FI...

Etc

Having got all that off my chest, Leicester (and Burnley if they finished 18th the preceding season) have a bona fida issue...with the PL and their rules. We submitted our accounts for this period years ago (I think?) and the issue has been rumbling on since then.

A 6 point deduction would (perhaps) have relegated us / "saved" them from a season in the championship, of which Burnley bounced straight back up with 100 points, and Leicester look set to do similar. So they are both down 100m TV money, but up a parachute payment which is quite high in the first year I think?

NB Obviously they can't both be affected, we'd only have got relegated once. Maybe they can sue each other smile

Blue62

8,969 posts

154 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Fast Bug said:
A) I wouldn't believe anything the Mail writes
B) the panel said we didn't get a competitive advantage
C) surely they need to chase the PL as its them that took the time to bring the case; and they were signing our accounts off and set us a salary cap to keep us on the right side financially
D) we could only relegate 1 club per season for being ste

I'm also ignoring the fact that Leicester broke ffp to get in to the PL in the first place. So could that could trigger claims from other clubs against them?
I’ve read similar, but it’s a rather bizarre response to say that we didn’t get a competitive advantage, how is that decided and by who? I think that’s their (and our) get out of gaol card to push back against future litigation, strikes me as a joke.

Adam.

27,399 posts

256 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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One of the few sensible summaries by the athletic

https://theathletic.com/5072039/2023/11/17/everton...

There is some PH trick around the firewall IIRC