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Venisonpie said:
Leicester Loyal said:
The top 3 are gonna end up with record points totals aren't they?!
I think the games between now and NYD are the key ones, someone in those 6 games will have a blip, I just hope it's not us.
It looks like it. Agree December will be telling.I think the games between now and NYD are the key ones, someone in those 6 games will have a blip, I just hope it's not us.
And of course the issue we have is we're already 7 points off a top two place and if that becomes 10 or more by January it will be quite a big gap to close - not impossible but it would need a significant wobble from either Leicester or Ipswich and thus far there's been no sign of that happening!
JNW1 said:
Venisonpie said:
Leicester Loyal said:
The top 3 are gonna end up with record points totals aren't they?!
I think the games between now and NYD are the key ones, someone in those 6 games will have a blip, I just hope it's not us.
It looks like it. Agree December will be telling.I think the games between now and NYD are the key ones, someone in those 6 games will have a blip, I just hope it's not us.
And of course the issue we have is we're already 7 points off a top two place and if that becomes 10 or more by January it will be quite a big gap to close - not impossible but it would need a significant wobble from either Leicester or Ipswich and thus far there's been no sign of that happening!
Venisonpie said:
JNW1 said:
Venisonpie said:
Leicester Loyal said:
The top 3 are gonna end up with record points totals aren't they?!
I think the games between now and NYD are the key ones, someone in those 6 games will have a blip, I just hope it's not us.
It looks like it. Agree December will be telling.I think the games between now and NYD are the key ones, someone in those 6 games will have a blip, I just hope it's not us.
And of course the issue we have is we're already 7 points off a top two place and if that becomes 10 or more by January it will be quite a big gap to close - not impossible but it would need a significant wobble from either Leicester or Ipswich and thus far there's been no sign of that happening!
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For the same reason I have no confidence we'd go up via the play-offs either; we've a 100% failure rate in those so I think it's top two or another season in the Championship for us. And if we fail to go up we'll more than likely lose some of our better players in the summer transfer window which probably means it will be more than just one additional season in the Championship....
JNW1 said:
Have to say on current form I fear it could be us dropping a few points this month. Yes we've won six of our last seven games but
The optimism of a Leeds fan defined ![biggrin](/inc/images/biggrin.gif)
I know what you mean - the top 3, even 4 although Southampton conceded a 96th minute equaliser at the weekend, are going at a crazy rate at the minute. Despite are stupidly slow start in August/September (remember playing Jamie Shackleton, Joe Geldhart and Ian Poveda up front vs Brum?!?!?) we're only a point or two behind where we were when we smashed the division in 19/20 so for Leicester and Ipswich to be where they are is a crazy state to be in!
Shaping up to be a great season. I love the Championship and winning it/getting promoted is obviously the aim for every team in it but I hate the premiership with a passion. Everything from the Man City/Man Utds/Chelseas of the world, VAR, the plastic fans, the media coverage (see Spurs' post-match stuff yesterday - there was as much talk of Harry Kane having gone than there was focus on what was a good Spurs performance) etc...
DaveyBoyWonder said:
I love the Championship and winning it/getting promoted is obviously the aim for every team in it but I hate the premiership with a passion. Everything from the Man City/Man Utds/Chelseas of the world, VAR, the plastic fans, the media coverage (see Spurs' post-match stuff yesterday - there was as much talk of Harry Kane having gone than there was focus on what was a good Spurs performance) etc...
I agree the Premier League is far from perfect but it's a marked step up from the Championship in terms of quality and - IMHO - it's where we as a club ought to be aiming. Yes the Championship is relentless and in some ways a harder division but personally I've seen enough of us scratching around in that to last me a lifetime! Leeds is a one club city - and a decent size city at that - and with the right ownership and management I think we should be more than capable of holding our own in the top flight (by which I mean achieving solid mid-table finishes). Just a shame we failed to consolidate on our 9th place in the PL in 20/21; two places ahead of Villa - a comparable benchmark club IMO - but what a contrast in the way the two of us have gone since then...
ziggy328 said:
Whilst I’m tempted to agree I wouldn’t write us off just yet. One thing is clear though. We need to fight like hell to avoid the playoffs.
I haven't written us off yet either but I suspect it's rare teams are 10 points clear in the automatic promotion places at the turn of the year only to get overtaken and end-up in the play-offs. I'm sure we'll keep at it but we can't afford many more slip-ups with the way Leicester and Ipswich are going; the latter come to ER later this month and that's looking like a must win game for us if we're going to make the top two....Was doing some calculations after tonights games.
Leeds need 2.36 PPG to hit 100 points, that's 19 wins and two draws (or 20 wins) from 25 games. Needing to win 4 of every 5 games for the rest of the season is a huge task, tonight was massive.
Leicester need 17 wins from 26 games to hit 100 points.
Ipswich are running riot, deserved a point maximum out of tonights game, yet found a way to win again.
Huge game for us tomorrow now, 3 points needed.
Leeds need 2.36 PPG to hit 100 points, that's 19 wins and two draws (or 20 wins) from 25 games. Needing to win 4 of every 5 games for the rest of the season is a huge task, tonight was massive.
Leicester need 17 wins from 26 games to hit 100 points.
Ipswich are running riot, deserved a point maximum out of tonights game, yet found a way to win again.
Huge game for us tomorrow now, 3 points needed.
ziggy328 said:
Don’t disagree. But it’s looking like a weird season. Plus, everyone is prone to slip ups.
It's weird in the sense we could end-up with a points total in the mid-80's and still fail to make the top two - Leicester and Ipswich could both be in the 90's the way they're going! I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!
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JNW1 said:
It's weird in the sense we could end-up with a points total in the mid-80's and still fail to make the top two - Leicester and Ipswich could both be in the 90's the way they're going!
I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
I think there's a high chance both us and and Ipswich will finish on more than 90 points, 14 wins from 26 games means we'll finish on 91 points. I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!
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Leicester Loyal said:
JNW1 said:
It's weird in the sense we could end-up with a points total in the mid-80's and still fail to make the top two - Leicester and Ipswich could both be in the 90's the way they're going!
I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
I think there's a high chance both us and and Ipswich will finish on more than 90 points, 14 wins from 26 games means we'll finish on 91 points. I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!
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JNW1 said:
Leicester Loyal said:
JNW1 said:
It's weird in the sense we could end-up with a points total in the mid-80's and still fail to make the top two - Leicester and Ipswich could both be in the 90's the way they're going!
I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
I think there's a high chance both us and and Ipswich will finish on more than 90 points, 14 wins from 26 games means we'll finish on 91 points. I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!
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Venisonpie said:
JNW1 said:
Leicester Loyal said:
JNW1 said:
It's weird in the sense we could end-up with a points total in the mid-80's and still fail to make the top two - Leicester and Ipswich could both be in the 90's the way they're going!
I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
I think there's a high chance both us and and Ipswich will finish on more than 90 points, 14 wins from 26 games means we'll finish on 91 points. I agree everyone's prone to slip-ups but when you're 10 to 12 points clear you could have a solid month of playing badly and still be ahead of your nearest rival - even with 3 points for a win it's a sizeable gap to close in half a season. But not impossible!
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Still think Leeds will catch us, maybe even Southampton and Sunderland too (statistically top top teams).
Norwich on Saturday is a cup game and could go either way, form goes out the window for that one, then for us to get anything from you guys and Leicester is a HUGE ask.
Football, funny old game....not even half way yet.
Loads can and will change, of that i'm sure.
dirty boy said:
Still think Leeds will catch us, maybe even Southampton and Sunderland too (statistically top top teams).
I think your visit to Elland Road later this month will be quite crucial; if you come to our place and win it means you'll probably be more than 10 points clear of the chasing pack going into January and that's a lot to make up in half a season - not impossible but very difficult and probably only doable if you have a major wobble.And of course we (or one of the other chasing teams) will have to put a really good run together to overhaul you even if you do have a wobble. Can't speak for the others but I'm not convinced we're playing well enough to take advantage if you slip-up; we were poor at Sunderland last night and arguably didn't deserve to beat Boro and Blackburn in our two games prior to that either...
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