The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

[abzmike]

Terzo123 said:

Celtic were a bit rusty, but still more than enough for the Sheep. Normally we'd be have 4 competitive games under our belt prior to the initial league game, so ill take this result.

After the champagne start a wee bit disappointing - a few times trying to walk the ball into the goal when a shot would have done fine. Aberdeen stuck at it though. Onwards and upward though - like you say a little rustiness not surprising, and a couple of weeks to get going. I think it’s a team that can score a lot of goals when it gets going.

[hongkongdonkey]

Just listened to a podcast with David Martindale. Interestingly he said that they got lucky as there should have been a second yellow for their player and the Colak goal was onside He reckoned some decisions went in Rangers favour too though but I'd argue that an early sending off and a goal make it a totally different game.

A very tough game tonight without some key players. Just one competitive game into the season makes it difficult but hopefully we can keep it tight for the return leg.

[Driver101]

Is this thread really going to be reduced to contesting every decision days after games on the basis of one person said this and another said that? Some decisions went for Rangers and some went for Livingston. The offside wasn't one of them.

Rangers fans desperately trying to suggest biased officials and submitting complaints about Sportscene after one game. It's a massively OTT reaction over nothing. It's also only one game into the season.

[Tomanybikes]

The CL qualification not quite as easy as the peeepul thought.

[Driver101]

I didn't expect that result. 2-0 is no reflection of that game as it should have been 4 or 5-0. Union will be kicking themselves for not finishing the game off.

At 2-0 I don't think the game is over. I don't think Union are that good, but Rangers were woeful tonight. They offered nothing the entire game and not one player gets a pass mark.

I thought the VAR penalty was wrong. Goldson's arm was outside his body, but the ball came off another player a couple of yards away.

[hotchy]

Penalty was the right call going by the rules. So if the ball came off another player while net bound it wouldn't be a penalty because an arm was head height stopping the ball? Ofcourse it is. So yes It's harsh, but the rules and a perfectly good call, he's made himself bigger with arms up like a jumping jack and got the deserved punishment.

That could have been one of the most embarrassing results in Scottish football history if they managed to score those missed opportunities. I'd be very worried about the league aswel. Loosing like that shows they will struggle massively.

[Driver101]

hotchy said:

Penalty was the right call going by the rules. So if the ball came off another player while net bound it wouldn't be a penalty because an arm was head height stopping the ball? Ofcourse it is. So yes It's harsh, but the rules and a perfectly good call, he's made himself bigger with arms up like a jumping jack and got the deserved punishment.

That could have been one of the most embarrassing results in Scottish football history if they managed to score those missed opportunities. I'd be very worried about the league aswel. Loosing like that shows they will struggle massively.

The ball wasn't goalbound. The shot was blocked and was coming away from goal. Rangers were unlucky with that decision. Decisions went their way before it adds to the conspiracy campaign. Sands should have been sent off twice.

VAR isn't going to be the game changer some hope. The handball rule is still causing so much debate as everyone has their own interpretation. Often the pundits admit they don't actually understand.

Germany are complaining about a penalty they think they should have had in the Euro 2022 final. I think that one was a penalty, but VAR didn't.

Last night will have shaken Rangers. Every single player played really badly. They should have been thrashed. They are extremely lucky to still be in the game. They were awful.

It's too early to write Rangers off. Remember the same happened with Celtic last year, but I can see why Rangers fans are so upset after two games.

[dalzo]

hotchy said:

Penalty was the right call going by the rules. So if the ball came off another player while net bound it wouldn't be a penalty because an arm was head height stopping the ball? Ofcourse it is. So yes It's harsh, but the rules and a perfectly good call, he's made himself bigger with arms up like a jumping jack and got the deserved punishment.

That could have been one of the most embarrassing results in Scottish football history if they managed to score those missed opportunities. I'd be very worried about the league aswel. Loosing like that shows they will struggle massively.

The penalty decision was wrong going by the rules.

“Exceptions, e.g the player’s arm is already extended when there is no expectation o the ball coming at, or near, the player from a team-mate.”

Balls also going away from goal but tbh it doesn’t matter, it was an absolutely scandalous performance from the squad and manager.

They deserve every bit of criticism coming their way today.
Toothless, insipid pish performance when champions league qualifications are at stake is alarming.

goldson running up the pitch, getting caught and letting a player go one on one with the keeper and rather than chase back he stands still and shouts at other players for not being available, pretty much summed up the performance.

[Katzenjammer]

Driver101 said:

Is this thread really going to be reduced to contesting every decision days after games on the basis of one person said this and another said that?

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That would be an affirmative

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[Drive Blind]

Well done Dundee Utd

[Terzo123]

What a fantastic result for Dundee Utd and what goal.

https://twitter.com/ScotsAbroadPod/status/15552955...

Here's hoping they can hold on and get through the away leg.

[Driver101]

I didn't see much of the Dundee Utd European game, but that was a great result. It would be a huge achievement if they get through. Disappointing to see the packed stands and atmosphere didn't last today.

Livingston don't look a bad team again. They should have beat Rangers last week and beating Dundee Utd away when they are on a high is a good result.

Hibs v Hearts game. Looked more even than the radio made out earlier. Shankland's goal for me is a handball. I know the T-Shirt line will be quoted, but he put his arm out and that was what controlled the ball. I get that someone deserves the benefit of doubt when the ball is played against them, but he gained a huge advantage by using his arm.

Really poor to see so many object thrown by Hibs fans. I hope there was good cameras to catch the culprits.

Jota has started the season on fire for Celtic. He's a brilliant player.

I quite surprised that the linesman missed that Morelos goal was offside. He was noticeably ahead of the ball the entire time.

Aberdeen looked good. Fine goal by Clarkson.

Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 7th August 21:21

[hotchy]

Cant believe how good jota is. Sad thing is, he's so good I can't see him being here next season. He will break assist records. Will be good to see him in the champions league to see how he is against the very best. Also that save from Hart at the free kick was outstanding. Top class.

Boyle is some signing for hibs though. He will drag that full team up.

Aberdeen look alot better this year, can see them pushing Hearts for 3rd.

Morelos was offside, didn't effect the game but with VAR it would have been chopped off. Still don't even know how it rolled by the entire box of players. Looked almost comedy. Big one will be Tuesday. Can rangers lift themselves because so far they've had a very easy start to the campaign and struggled. Score in the first half, they'll do it. If they don't things will get sketchy.

[DocJock]

Whilst I am delighted to see Martin Boyle back at Easter Road, there is only so much he can do. The rest of them look utterly hapless and have poor basic skills such as first touch and passing.

It's going to be a long season I fear.

[Driver101]

dalzo said:

Why are you going on the offensive?

The fact your saying it was some fans at the pub when it was the away section at the game which the article clearly states shows you don’t even know what happened or what was sung but your defending it anyway. Shameless whataboutery and really letting the mask slip.

Trying way too hard. In no way have I defended it. I never have and never will. Very poor attempt to suggest otherwise. I did think you were going to stay clear of me, but if you don't please don't start this nonsense.

It can't have been a high profile incident when nobody knows about it. I seen a video shared about singing in a pub, but not at the game. It certainly wasn't vocal and obvious like the Tommy Burns songs.

Like I say you have something to say about an incident nobody has heard about. Let us hear your comments about the mass scale incidents we do know about? Surely you want to call out all bad behaviour and won't avoid the major issues around Rangers games?

There is something really uncomfortable about the start to this season. There is a very negative aggression coming from Rangers fans.

Edited by Driver101 on Monday 8th August 22:31

[Driver101]

dalzo said:

I think I’ll go back to ignoring you now if this is the same old same old whataboutery and victim playing nonsense.

Victim playing nonsense? You have to stop this nonsense.

Back to ignoring me? When did you start ignoring me?

I managed to ignore you for months and didn't once read a post. Yet anytime I posted it was quote, quote, quote. Never once a response or acknowledgment, but you kept going and going. It was very weird.

You suggested you'd ignore me, but lasted only 2 or 3 posts. That isn't ignoring.

Anyways, this thread is already a disaster. Come on Dalzo stop this nonsense. Keep it on football and stop this weird behaviour stuff.

Edited by Driver101 on Monday 8th August 23:23

[Shambler]

dalzo said:

Drive Blind said:

I assume they are laughing at your pathetic wind up attempt ?

How is it even remotely a wind up attempt? The 2nd game of the season and the match report from the Scotsman is dominated by Celtic singing the super trooper song. Which for the avoidance of doubt the words are "Super trooper no more Davie Cooper, Walter Smith's in hell, so is Jimmy Bell. Andy Goram's there as well."

Driver101 said:

Trying way too hard. In no way have I defended it. I never have and never will. Very poor attempt to suggest otherwise. I did think you were going to stay clear of me, but if you don't please don't start this nonsense.

It can't have been a high profile incident when nobody knows about it. I seen a video shared about singing in a pub, but not at the game. It certainly wasn't vocal and obvious like the Tommy Burns songs.

Like I say you have something to say about an incident nobody has heard about. Let us hear you comments about the mass scale incidents we do know about? Surely you want to call out all bad behaviour and won't avoid the major issues around Rangers games?

There is something really uncomfortable about the start to this season. There is a very negative aggression coming from Rangers fans.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/celtic-reaction-truly-toxic-chants-sour-afternoon-as-first-timer-displays-finery-and-talisman-earns-boost-3796417

In no way have you defended it? Your first reaction without knowing all the facts was to hit out with whatabout rangers. I was hoping too but someone laughing at chants about dead people should be confronted.

Even now your trying to downplay it and turn it back to what did rangers fans do and go on the offensive.

Even your last sentence is pathetic, aggression? It’s calling out vile chants and those that condone it if you feel personally attacked then you may fall into that category.

I think I’ll go back to ignoring you now if this is the same old same old whataboutery and victim playing nonsense.

[hongkongdonkey]

I can't say I'm surprised to read that story. Celtic supporters have a history of celebrating the death from the Lee Rigby song
(Mirror), letting off fireworks during the minutes silence for Prince Philip (Daily Mail) not to mention the repeated mocking of the Ibrox disaster
(Daily Record)

The response from posters above is utterly shameful.

[Terzo123]

Thats not why i was laughing at Dalzo,

But you know that.

[Driver101]

Anyways, back to the football before this thread sinks right down the pan. It's too desperate this season.

Anyone tuning in for the Rangers v Union game tonight?

I think Rangers might do it. Union weren't a good side and will be left kicking themselves for not comfortably wrapping the game up after the first game.

Union only have 400 fans coming over. I didn't realise they were so small a club. Only one season in the top flight, low average crowds and little money spent on players. Their stadium wasn't fit to host the game against Rangers. It would be huge if they made the CL groups.

It should be an interesting game.