The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]

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Chris Stott

13,533 posts

199 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Why buy a defensive RB to play in a system that hasn’t, doesn’t, and won’t use a traditional RB?

We’ve never had defensive FB’s under Klopp… up to last season they played more as wingers or wing backs, and now 1 of them plays as a MF in possession.

Trent is what he is… people need to accept his occasional defensive weaknesses for his attacking threat.

We aren’t going backwards… need to find players that work with the new tactics.

Flip Martian

19,773 posts

192 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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I also wouldn't assume that "replacing Mo" will involve getting "another Mo". Given his off the chart stats and scoring, it's more likely that someone would come in but not to do exactly what he does - the team will adjust to "not having a Mo", I would have thought.

BossHogg

6,045 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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ChocolateFrog

25,877 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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This one passed me by.

Newcastle paying Karius £10k a week!.

fk the universe. Wish I could be that bad at my job and still pick up half a million a year.


General Price

5,282 posts

185 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
This one passed me by.

Newcastle paying Karius £10k a week!.

fk the universe. Wish I could be that bad at my job and still pick up half a million a year.
Antony and Sancho say,hold our pints.biggrin

eyebeebe

3,010 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
This one passed me by.

Newcastle paying Karius £10k a week!.

fk the universe. Wish I could be that bad at my job and still pick up half a million a year.

I saw that earlier and thought the same thing. Must stick in the craw of some of our great players from a couple of decades ago.

Probably a massive dent to the ego of our social media loving former goalie to be in that list though laugh

SWoll

18,671 posts

260 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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On the topic of weekly wages I was hugely surprised by what Diaz picks up. Talk of Barcelona being interested in him kicked off by his father so was checking how long his contract runs for.



Considerably less than half of what we pay Darwin (£140k) or even Cody (£120k). Doesn't seem right that, even when you consider he was only on £28k when he joined apparently?

eyebeebe

3,010 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Is 2021-22 not a mistake in the table? 28k being half of 56k and he was only with us for half a season.

Maybe in 2027 Barcelona can afford his wages if he runs down his contract (leaving him on 56k a week). They won’t be able to offer us enough to consider selling him in the meantime.

SWoll

18,671 posts

260 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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eyebeebe said:
Is 2021-22 not a mistake in the table? 28k being half of 56k and he was only with us for half a season.

Maybe in 2027 Barcelona can afford his wages if he runs down his contract (leaving him on 56k a week). They won’t be able to offer us enough to consider selling him in the meantime.
Ah, of course he joined in Jan so makes sense.

Not really interested in the Barcelona stuff as highly likely a south american player would have aspirations to play there at some point, just very surprised he is on so little in comparison to others as a first XI player.

Szobo joined on £120k and Grav/Mac £150k apparently. Needs a better agent..




ChocolateFrog

25,877 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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eyebeebe said:
I saw that earlier and thought the same thing. Must stick in the craw of some of our great players from a couple of decades ago.

Probably a massive dent to the ego of our social media loving former goalie to be in that list though laugh
I genuinely don't think he'd improve any male professional team in this country.

Imagine being in the Conference (or whatever its called these days) as a keeper and seeing Karius earn 10 times more than you to be 3rd or 4th choice at Newcastle.

ChocolateFrog

25,877 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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SWoll said:
On the topic of weekly wages I was hugely surprised by what Diaz picks up. Talk of Barcelona being interested in him kicked off by his father so was checking how long his contract runs for.



Considerably less than half of what we pay Darwin (£140k) or even Cody (£120k). Doesn't seem right that, even when you consider he was only on £28k when he joined apparently?
He'll get a new contract surely.

He's worth nearer 200k all day long. Is there a better left winger in the league?

ChocolateFrog

25,877 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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BBC saying LFC have flown Diaz's family over to Liverpool for Christmas.

Hopefully not against their will hehe

Nice touch if true.

Chris Stott

13,533 posts

199 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Hopefully not against their will hehe

Nice touch if true.
hehe

Probably couldn’t afford it himself on his paupers contract wink

SWoll

18,671 posts

260 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Chris Stott said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Hopefully not against their will hehe

Nice touch if true.
hehe

Probably couldn’t afford it himself on his paupers contract wink
All relative Chris.

Works on many levels that. smile


Flip Martian

19,773 posts

192 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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On the flip side, it's a 6 year contract. How often do we hand those out? And presumably it's actually staggered with salary reviews depending on various targets being met too. Can't imagine he would be stuck for 6 years on such a paltry (coughcough) sum.

eyebeebe

3,010 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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SWoll said:
Ah, of course he joined in Jan so makes sense.

Not really interested in the Barcelona stuff as highly likely a south american player would have aspirations to play there at some point, just very surprised he is on so little in comparison to others as a first XI player.

Szobo joined on £120k and Grav/Mac £150k apparently. Needs a better agent..
I’d guess it’s more about where he came from. Portuguese league vs Bundesliga and PL. everyone’s had an interview where they ask what you’re currently on. No question for me he needs a new contract now though. I mean he’s not even on 6 Karius’s

eyebeebe

3,010 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
I genuinely don't think he'd improve any male professional team in this country.

Imagine being in the Conference (or whatever its called these days) as a keeper and seeing Karius earn 10 times more than you to be 3rd or 4th choice at Newcastle.
Yep. Dictionary definition of stealing a living. And he still has a CL runners up medal. banghead

Flip Martian

19,773 posts

192 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Karius was very highly rated when we bought him. For whatever reason, his progression ended there. Perhaps he thought he had it made. Maybe he's just not someone who can handle that pressure. God knows.

SWoll

18,671 posts

260 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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eyebeebe said:
I’d guess it’s more about where he came from. Portuguese league vs Bundesliga and PL.
Same league as we bought Darwin from, yet < 50% of the wages.

Flip Martian said:
On the flip side, it's a 6 year contract. How often do we hand those out?
Darwin, Szobo, Grav and Mac Allister are all on 5 year deals and Cody is on 5.5 the same as Diaz due to being a January signing.

Edited by SWoll on Saturday 18th November 16:00

ferrisbueller

29,386 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
SWoll said:
On the topic of weekly wages I was hugely surprised by what Diaz picks up. Talk of Barcelona being interested in him kicked off by his father so was checking how long his contract runs for.



Considerably less than half of what we pay Darwin (£140k) or even Cody (£120k). Doesn't seem right that, even when you consider he was only on £28k when he joined apparently?
He'll get a new contract surely.

He's worth nearer 200k all day long. Is there a better left winger in the league?
Mitoma? Who is reportedly on significantly less money, too.