The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)
Discussion
Challo said:
J6542 said:
Challo said:
If we park the ETH discussion for the moment, and take a step back and think how do we as fans want to play football. If you look at the current teams in the prem my preference would be Liverpool or Spurs.
- Good to watch
- Scores lots of goals
- Exciting football
- High back lines and press from the front
Last night and most of this season shows that no matter what manager comes in they face an up hill battle with a squad that is technically lacking, slow, and struggles with the ball at their feet. ETH talks about being brave with the ball but I just look at our team and think there is only a handful that look comfy on the ball.
Last night it was like the ball was a bomb and we looked scared to touch it. You can see why Mainoo was starting in pre season and they bought Mount as well to try keep hold of the thing.
Personally I think if we had a quick/mobile CB who is good on the ball, another Mainoo type player in midfield I think the performance would be hugely different
Did you watch any spurs games last season? They were terrible. The new manager came in with his style and made them play it. - Good to watch
- Scores lots of goals
- Exciting football
- High back lines and press from the front
Last night and most of this season shows that no matter what manager comes in they face an up hill battle with a squad that is technically lacking, slow, and struggles with the ball at their feet. ETH talks about being brave with the ball but I just look at our team and think there is only a handful that look comfy on the ball.
Last night it was like the ball was a bomb and we looked scared to touch it. You can see why Mainoo was starting in pre season and they bought Mount as well to try keep hold of the thing.
Personally I think if we had a quick/mobile CB who is good on the ball, another Mainoo type player in midfield I think the performance would be hugely different
Since ETH has came in I haven’t seen any style of play or any sign of the players being coached. We seam to play as a team of individuals.
If you look at our squad right now could we play the same football as say Spurs, Liverpool or Brighton? Are the players good enough?
Do you seem the same work ethic, technical ability in our team?
J6542 said:
Nobody seen it in the spurs team last season either. Our team have plenty of technical ability but are lacking in work ethic and style, which is ETH job to coach them. I thought when Onana came in we were going to play out from the back more, but we seam to pass back to him and he launches it up field.
I look at our team and don’t see players technically comfortable with the ball at their feet. If Onana has the ball, outside of Dalot did any of the back 4 look happy to receive the ball under pressure and play forward passes? Drabbesttunic said:
G-wiz said:
FA Cup win or Champions League spot?
Surely you'd always choose a cup.I really think we’ve blown the CL places now anyway
Edited by 57Ford on Sunday 31st March 19:57
and31 said:
Some of us were at that game-despite a poor performance it was still a great buzz to get two very late goals and win the match-what’s your problem with that?
Perhaps you should go to some games? It’s really not difficult to get tickets…
It’s funny being the bad guy on here. Literally every post is slamming the team, the performance and / or the manager, but that gets ignored. Perhaps you should go to some games? It’s really not difficult to get tickets…
Saying that United are rubbish currently isn’t being negative. It’s a statement of fact. Going to watch a match doesn’t make you special, or somehow give you more of an opinion on here, despite what some claim.
If the best we can hope for is a last minute home win against an awful team and then being unable to hold on for a minute after scoring another last minute goal against the same team, then we’re heading in absolutely the wrong direction. Teams can lose the odd match in a shock, but there’s no shock here. We are outplayed by any team that decides to put up even half a fight.
LF5335 said:
It’s funny being the bad guy on here. Literally every post is slamming the team, the performance and / or the manager, but that gets ignored.
Saying that United are rubbish currently isn’t being negative. It’s a statement of fact. Going to watch a match doesn’t make you special, or somehow give you more of an opinion on here, despite what some claim.
Read what I said after last nights match, I agree we are piss poor.Saying that United are rubbish currently isn’t being negative. It’s a statement of fact. Going to watch a match doesn’t make you special, or somehow give you more of an opinion on here, despite what some claim.
going to a match doesn’t make me special, but you referenced the United -Brentford game, clearly taking the piss “whoohoo family and kids and stuff where there, loved it”
Well I was there so it certainly gives me more of an opinion about that particular game over someone that watched it on match of the day! brilliant at the end-great fun,despite the performance that day.who are you to judge?
Edited by and31 on Sunday 31st March 22:54
G-wiz said:
I am more inclined to agree with simona and LF355 opinion now, that ETH, like his Dutch compatriot, Guido Fawkes, should have been hung, drawn and quartered, some time ago.
While I agree that ETH is doing himself no favours at the moment and continuing performances like that will mean he won’t keep his job in the summer. If you look at a lot of the modern day managers, they all want to play possession football, build out from the back etc and I don’t think our squad does that. Requires more signings which will take time.
Unless we get rid of Casemiro in the summer i can’t see us going big on another midfielder. The guy is on a long contract and obscene wages
As I said yesterday, I think what ever happens this is a wake up call for the owners and who ever the DOF will be that it’s a massive job and they are going to have to be ruthless
ETH is trying to get the team to do things they are not equipped to do , instead of looking at what we actually have and how best to use it .
Performances have been woeful and on one hand I see the need to change but on the other look at arteta and klopp both of whom had similar performance levels for a few years before things started to click .
Performances have been woeful and on one hand I see the need to change but on the other look at arteta and klopp both of whom had similar performance levels for a few years before things started to click .
ETH will go and he knows he's done even if somehow miraculously won the FA Cup. Everyone can see we're going backwards and our running joke 0 or negative goal difference is now in April. What kind of life is it for a united fan right now? We either need City to win 4 in a row, Liverpool to match 20 titles or have Arsenal win their first title a decade. Pure punishment.
franki68 said:
ETH is trying to get the team to do things they are not equipped to do , instead of looking at what we actually have and how best to use it .
Performances have been woeful and on one hand I see the need to change but on the other look at arteta and klopp both of whom had similar performance levels for a few years before things started to click .
Both of the managers you mention had completely transformed their squads after two years with their own players. They might not have been the right players ultimately, but there was change. We are still using players as far back as the LVG era and rating them as critical to the team (Shaw). Performances have been woeful and on one hand I see the need to change but on the other look at arteta and klopp both of whom had similar performance levels for a few years before things started to click .
The lack of squad turnover can be blamed on all aspects of the club, but ETH’s chosen players are pretty crap.
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jgrewal said:
What kind of life is it for a united fan right now?
When we knock off the perch, those currrently on the perch, the pleasure will be intense.jgrewal said:
or have Arsenal win their first title a decade.
Arsenal have not a title in 2 decades, not a decade.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff