The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]
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snorky782 said:
That's true, but DeltonaS has a special place in our hearts. He pretend idea to be a United fan for months, despite many calling him out for the use of "ManU" amd his abject hatred of SAF. He's now admitted to not being a fan, but only posts on this thread, mainly in support of LVG.
LOL,Abject hatred ?, not me, never posted anything like it. I think the problem is people here have a problem with criticism on SAF. IMO he did a lot right (hence his won silverware and long spell), but most probably not everything.
anonymous said:
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chrisb92 said:
Black can man said:
Wouldn't it be funny if Jose Mourinho told Utd to go fk themselves
Even funnier if we then turned our attention to Poch and he said 'yeah alright' and left you with David Moyes or Nigel pearson.Black can man said:
chrisb92 said:
Black can man said:
Wouldn't it be funny if Jose Mourinho told Utd to go fk themselves
Even funnier if we then turned our attention to Poch and he said 'yeah alright' and left you with David Moyes or Nigel pearson.jammy_basturd said:
Black can man said:
chrisb92 said:
Black can man said:
Wouldn't it be funny if Jose Mourinho told Utd to go fk themselves
Even funnier if we then turned our attention to Poch and he said 'yeah alright' and left you with David Moyes or Nigel pearson.Oh well looking forward to next season's midweek Euro nights.
Hopefully the Pool will get Swansea on a wednesday
Alpinestars said:
I hear LVG is available. And he's never finished above Arsenal. The perfect fit.
Some perspective and history, while we wait on Ed Wayward to announce Special Gone as new manager and rename the club into Mourinho United for an uncertain period of time:After ManU ended the EPL on the 3rd spot in 1983 and 3 consecutive 4th spots from 1984 till 1986, SAF took over in 1986, his first 6 years in the EPL;
1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
Alex Ferguson and his assistant Archie Knox arrived from Aberdeen on the day of Atkinson's dismissal and guided the club to an 11th-place finish in the league. Despite a second-place finish in 1987–88, the club was back in 11th place the following season. Reportedly on the verge of being dismissed, victory over Crystal Palace in the 1990 FA Cup Final replay (after a 3–3 draw) saved Ferguson's career.
Anther story tells Matt Busby saved Fergusons ManU career by giving United's board the advice not to sack him.
DeltonaS said:
Some perspective and history, while we wait on Ed Wayward to announce Special Gone as new manager and rename the club into Mourinho United for an uncertain period of time:
After ManU ended the EPL on the 3rd spot in 1983 and 3 consecutive 4th spots from 1984 till 1986, SAF took over in 1986, his first 6 years in the EPL;
1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
Alex Ferguson and his assistant Archie Knox arrived from Aberdeen on the day of Atkinson's dismissal and guided the club to an 11th-place finish in the league. Despite a second-place finish in 1987–88, the club was back in 11th place the following season. Reportedly on the verge of being dismissed, victory over Crystal Palace in the 1990 FA Cup Final replay (after a 3–3 draw) saved Ferguson's career.
Anther story tells Matt Busby saved Fergusons ManU career by giving United's board the advice not to sack him.
ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzAfter ManU ended the EPL on the 3rd spot in 1983 and 3 consecutive 4th spots from 1984 till 1986, SAF took over in 1986, his first 6 years in the EPL;
1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
Alex Ferguson and his assistant Archie Knox arrived from Aberdeen on the day of Atkinson's dismissal and guided the club to an 11th-place finish in the league. Despite a second-place finish in 1987–88, the club was back in 11th place the following season. Reportedly on the verge of being dismissed, victory over Crystal Palace in the 1990 FA Cup Final replay (after a 3–3 draw) saved Ferguson's career.
Anther story tells Matt Busby saved Fergusons ManU career by giving United's board the advice not to sack him.
DeltonaS said:
SAF took over in 1986, his first 6 years in the EPL;
1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
Well DeltonaS, seen as how you're not a United fan, but an LVG fan with an axe to grind, I thought it best to point out the errors of this statement.1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
SAF's first 6 years in EPL looked like this:
1992/1993 1st
1993/1994 1st
1994/1995 2nd
1995/1996 1st
1996/1997 1st
1997/1998 2nd
Just saying
DeltonaS said:
Alpinestars said:
I hear LVG is available. And he's never finished above Arsenal. The perfect fit.
Some perspective and history, while we wait on Ed Wayward to announce Special Gone as new manager and rename the club into Mourinho United for an uncertain period of time:After ManU ended the EPL on the 3rd spot in 1983 and 3 consecutive 4th spots from 1984 till 1986, SAF took over in 1986, his first 6 years in the EPL;
1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
Alex Ferguson and his assistant Archie Knox arrived from Aberdeen on the day of Atkinson's dismissal and guided the club to an 11th-place finish in the league. Despite a second-place finish in 1987–88, the club was back in 11th place the following season. Reportedly on the verge of being dismissed, victory over Crystal Palace in the 1990 FA Cup Final replay (after a 3–3 draw) saved Ferguson's career.
Anther story tells Matt Busby saved Fergusons ManU career by giving United's board the advice not to sack him.
DeltonaS said:
Some perspective and history, while we wait on Ed Wayward to announce Special Gone as new manager and rename the club into Mourinho United for an uncertain period of time:
After ManU ended the EPL on the 3rd spot in 1983 and 3 consecutive 4th spots from 1984 till 1986, SAF took over in 1986, his first 6 years in the EPL;
1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
Alex Ferguson and his assistant Archie Knox arrived from Aberdeen on the day of Atkinson's dismissal and guided the club to an 11th-place finish in the league. Despite a second-place finish in 1987–88, the club was back in 11th place the following season. Reportedly on the verge of being dismissed, victory over Crystal Palace in the 1990 FA Cup Final replay (after a 3–3 draw) saved Ferguson's career.
Anther story tells Matt Busby saved Fergusons ManU career by giving United's board the advice not to sack him.
Thanks for the history lesson. After ManU ended the EPL on the 3rd spot in 1983 and 3 consecutive 4th spots from 1984 till 1986, SAF took over in 1986, his first 6 years in the EPL;
1986/1987 11th
1987/1988 2th
1988/1989 13th
1989/1990 11th
1990/1991 6th
1991/1992 2th
Alex Ferguson and his assistant Archie Knox arrived from Aberdeen on the day of Atkinson's dismissal and guided the club to an 11th-place finish in the league. Despite a second-place finish in 1987–88, the club was back in 11th place the following season. Reportedly on the verge of being dismissed, victory over Crystal Palace in the 1990 FA Cup Final replay (after a 3–3 draw) saved Ferguson's career.
Anther story tells Matt Busby saved Fergusons ManU career by giving United's board the advice not to sack him.
The point you keep missing is progress.
LVG has made no progress in terms of the football UNITED play. And I'm not sure anyone could see that progress would have been made. His style of football may well have been successfull in the 90s, but it's never going to cut it now. So there was never going to be any point in extending his tenure once you realise that.
Ferguson came in without having inherited a club with shed loads of cash and one that had been dominant for the past two decades. He made progress in how the team played football. On top of that, there was not the same commercial pressure to produce quick results. But the point you fail to understand time and time, is that Fergie was key to United's success. Proved by the number of times he rebuilt the team. And that he won the PL in his last season (and very nearly in his penultimate season), with a mediocre team.
LVG failed big time. You might not like it as a fellow Dutchman, but that's the reality.
Hope that helps.
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