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An interesting move indeed. I like Danny Wilson, he strikes me as a level-headed bloke where what you see is what you get.
Evans is, for now, an innocent man, I would hope that the media just let him get on and play football - they won't though, he's gonna need skin as thick as a rhino.
Evans is, for now, an innocent man, I would hope that the media just let him get on and play football - they won't though, he's gonna need skin as thick as a rhino.
I've got a feeling, and this is only based on the available information about the case, that this chap is going to be found 'not guilty' at his next trial. It doesn't strike me as the strongest prosecution given fresh evidence was able to quash the conviction.
It's unusual for a re-trial to be ordered if the convicted person has served their sentence.
That would be my take on it.Screens are designed to shield the victim from the accused.
It's unusual for a re-trial to be ordered if the convicted person has served their sentence.
SilverSpur said:
PurpleTurtle said:
Retrial in October, in Cardiff: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-
3612345/Ched-Evans-court-arrives-hear-trial-raping-woman-hotel.html
High quality journalism from the Daily Wail:
Headline: "rape victim will be forced to face him in court for a second time"
Text: "the alleged victim will appear in court to give evidence, but will be hidden behind a screen"
She can be hidden from the public gallery and reporters by a screen, but visible to Evans and the court people, can't she? 3612345/Ched-Evans-court-arrives-hear-trial-raping-woman-hotel.html
High quality journalism from the Daily Wail:
Headline: "rape victim will be forced to face him in court for a second time"
Text: "the alleged victim will appear in court to give evidence, but will be hidden behind a screen"
That would be my take on it.
Don't know why anyone expects elite sportsmen to be role models for anything other than being sportsmen. Young, very fit blokes who need a lot of self belief and a highly competitive nature and who find themselves with more money than they know what to do with - and people expect their behaviour to be exemplary?
MyM2006 said:
BrabusMog said:
Or the delightful Danny Simpson!
Probably because having a fight on a night out (Deeney) isn't viewed at the same level as domestic abuse or raping someone, none of it is really role model material though.otolith said:
Don't know why anyone expects elite sportsmen to be role models for anything other than being sportsmen. Young, very fit blokes who need a lot of self belief and a highly competitive nature and who find themselves with more money than they know what to do with - and people expect their behaviour to be exemplary?
This!!!If your child has a footballer as a role model, you need to be a better parent.
My kids, when they were younger, admired footballers for their ability to play football. But I made them well aware that they were, on the whole, fking idiots. And often not very nice human beings.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
This!!!
If your child has a footballer as a role model, you need to be a better parent.
My kids, when they were younger, admired Pakistanis for their ability to cook curry. But I made them well aware that they were, on the whole, fking idiots. And often not very nice human beings.
Edited for accuracy and to highlight the crass stupidity of the original comment.If your child has a footballer as a role model, you need to be a better parent.
My kids, when they were younger, admired Pakistanis for their ability to cook curry. But I made them well aware that they were, on the whole, fking idiots. And often not very nice human beings.
How many footballers do you know personally? I know a few and they're decent hard working (exceptionally well paid) people who love their kids and wives.
Edited by XM5ER on Friday 24th June 12:47
XM5ER said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
This!!!
If your child has a footballer as a role model, you need to be a better parent.
My kids, when they were younger, admired Pakistanis for their ability to cook curry. But I made them well aware that they were, on the whole, fking idiots. And often not very nice human beings.
How many footballers do you know personally? I know a few and they're decent hard working (exceptionally well paid) people who love their kids and wives.If your child has a footballer as a role model, you need to be a better parent.
My kids, when they were younger, admired Pakistanis for their ability to cook curry. But I made them well aware that they were, on the whole, fking idiots. And often not very nice human beings.
BrabusMog said:
boobles said:
SpeckledJim said:
Dan_1981 said:
Brave move by Chesterfield.
Innocent until proven guilty...I think the only reason that the usual suspects are not out haranguing Chesterfield sponsor's and directors is there is more important things going on in the world at present. Many are too busy joining in with the current "vogue" of Orlando or the death of the Jo Cox at present. (both horrendous)
Ched Evans is scum, treating his partner with disdain and shagging around. She and her father should have dropped him like a stone, but that is their choice.
Is he a rapist? I think he will be found not guilty as something never added up with this from day one. So it is right he should resume a career, in my mind yes.
Will he be the last player to go off the rails, not a chance as history is littered with examples of sportsmen who are addicts of one thing or another, who treat women as play things. In that way they are no different to many ordinary men.
Ched Evans is scum, treating his partner with disdain and shagging around. She and her father should have dropped him like a stone, but that is their choice.
Is he a rapist? I think he will be found not guilty as something never added up with this from day one. So it is right he should resume a career, in my mind yes.
Will he be the last player to go off the rails, not a chance as history is littered with examples of sportsmen who are addicts of one thing or another, who treat women as play things. In that way they are no different to many ordinary men.
boobles said:
Mr Snrub said:
Or that loveable ankle tag wearing racist Jamie Vardy
What did he do? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...
London424 said:
Not sure about the tag, but this is the racist bit...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...
Seriously? He was in trouble for saying that!http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...
boobles said:
London424 said:
Not sure about the tag, but this is the racist bit...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...
Seriously? He was in trouble for saying that!http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...
London424 said:
Not sure about the tag, but this is the racist bit...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...
Considering who owns his team, a wise move.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...
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