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Fast Bug

11,837 posts

163 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Axionknight said:
So are Everton, the squad is ste, the results have been woeful and it's all looking pretty grim

Beggars can't be choosers and as it stands Everton are some of the biggest beggars in the business - they might not be in the relegation zone but if any of the teams beneath them sort their stuff out and Everton don't, they're down. Big Sam will arrest that slide and get the club on an even keel again
Exactly this. We've shipped in 20 goals in 7 games for gods sake and we're not showing any signs of improving. Look at the teams around us, Palace are improving, West Ham looked better in their second game under Moyes and West Brom may well have a new manager bounce under Pardew. If we sit twiddling our thumbs waiting for a World Class manager to decide to join us it'll be too late.

Sam will get the teams doing the basics right and go from there, and that's what we need right now

Axionknight

8,505 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Fast Bug said:
Exactly this. We've shipped in 20 goals in 7 games for gods sake and we're not showing any signs of improving. Look at the teams around us, Palace are improving, West Ham looked better in their second game under Moyes and West Brom may well have a new manager bounce under Pardew. If we sit twiddling our thumbs waiting for a World Class manager to decide to join us it'll be too late.

Sam will get the teams doing the basics right and go from there, and that's what we need right now
yes

Koeman should be arrested and changed with fraud frankly, I know that the end of Bobby M's managerial reign wasn't the best but feck me, he's made a right shambles of it IMO - Steve Walsh too, he did alright at Leicester in finding Mahrez and Vardy but he's been fking pants for you guys

Kitchski

6,517 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Watched on Sunday as a Saints fan. Quite a good afternoon for me hehe

Flattered Saints though, in honesty. We're still underrated by many in terms of quality, but Everton made it pretty easy on Sunday. Worst team I've seen at St Marys since......erm....probably Norwich in 2014!

A lot of Everton fans seem to be unhappy with the players, and reckon they're crap. I take most of my advice from my FIL - who doesn't seem to post on here much anymore - about who's good and who's not, but you've got a lot of players in that team who didn't suddenly become st overnight. Hell, you've got Schneiderlin, who was probably our best player for two seasons in the PL until he left. He never stopped chasing, sprayed passes all over the park and generally dictated the speed of the game, single-handedly. He was awesome, and I was gutted when he left. And on Sunday? I forgot he was playing!

What's going on? I thought we were having a st season, but man!

You won't go down though, no risk of that. It's just not going to happen when you've got the likes of Huddersfield, Brighton et al, who will all be pedalling like fk under the water level trying to keep afloat when 35 games have gone.

Ascayman

12,792 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Axionknight said:
Fast Bug said:
Exactly this. We've shipped in 20 goals in 7 games for gods sake and we're not showing any signs of improving. Look at the teams around us, Palace are improving, West Ham looked better in their second game under Moyes and West Brom may well have a new manager bounce under Pardew. If we sit twiddling our thumbs waiting for a World Class manager to decide to join us it'll be too late.

Sam will get the teams doing the basics right and go from there, and that's what we need right now
yes

Koeman should be arrested and changed with fraud frankly, I know that the end of Bobby M's managerial reign wasn't the best but feck me, he's made a right shambles of it IMO - Steve Walsh too, he did alright at Leicester in finding Mahrez and Vardy but he's been fking pants for you guys
Koeman had most fooled to be fair, ive always thought he was going to be a great manager, how it got it so wrong is still a mystery to me.

hilly10

7,205 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Axionknight said:
So are Everton, the squad is ste, the results have been woeful and it's all looking pretty grim

Beggars can't be choosers and as it stands Everton are some of the biggest beggars in the business - they might not be in the relegation zone but if any of the teams beneath them sort their stuff out and Everton don't, they're down. Big Sam will arrest that slide and get the club on an even keel again
Pray tell me what do you mean that Everton are the biggest Beggars in the business. Please explain when what etc

hilly10

7,205 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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The one thing Sam will get is in his favour, and the one thing that will save us is, Pace and it will be there with Bolasie and Colman coming back,hopefully in the New Year

Edited by hilly10 on Tuesday 28th November 14:21

Fast Bug

11,837 posts

163 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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hilly10 said:
Pray tell me what do you mean that Everton are the biggest Beggars in the business. Please explain when what etc
We've spunked a st ton of money up the wall and gone massively backwards. We've then fked around for 5 weeks trying to sort a manager out and in that time dicked Sam around. Our current form of conceding more goals than San Marino V Brazil means that any dreams of a world class manager are a fading memory. We've publicly chased Silva and been told to fk right off meaning that every other manager we approach knows they're aren't first choice.Therefore he has us over a barrel

Axionknight

8,505 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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st squad
st form
Can barely buy a decent result
Shipping goals at an alarming rate
Five weeks since Koeman gone, no manager in place
No apparent end to the slump in sight under current conditions
Teams like Bournemouth and others at the lower end of the table and struggling have been used to such a fight/scrap before - can't see players who think that they are Big King st for Everton getting in to the nitty gritty of a relegation right with much glee, Schneiderlin and the like, gonna be a tough gig to steady the ship IMO

Apart from that it's coming up roses, best of luck to ya - it'll all be alright on the night! beer

hilly10

7,205 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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You made a statement that we were beggars, one that you cannot justify or explain. Not one point in your above post makes us Beggars So what I know we are crap we cannot get a decent result it may change, it may not that's football. Just think before you make stupid statements.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Saying that beggars can't be choosers means that you must be content with what you get in a difficult situation.....

Feck me, I'm off, I can't believe that I have to explain something like that to you

hilly10

7,205 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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That’s it just feck off and find another thread to cause annoyance.

hilly10

7,205 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Wheels are coming off the Silva wagon, let him stay where he is

Gameface

16,565 posts

79 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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From my own admittedly small sample of canvassed opinions, I don't think many will be shedding a year for Everton's plight.

Talking football amongst friends and colleagues, the consensus was that some of their fans got rather arrogant about their new investment and were telling anyone who'd listen that they'd be a real force from now on. Be challenging on all fronts etc. Be bigger than their cross park neighbours etc.

Not only has that not happened, but you've actually regressed. And frankly if you are so badly run that you sack a new manager after a few months and don't have a proper replacement well over a month later, relegation is what you should expect.

hilly10

7,205 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Even new members are having a go now

Fast Bug

11,837 posts

163 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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hilly10 said:
That’s it just feck off and find another thread to cause annoyance.
I bet you're fun at parties aren't you Hilly? laugh

Gameface said:
From my own admittedly small sample of canvassed opinions, I don't think many will be shedding a year for Everton's plight.

Talking football amongst friends and colleagues, the consensus was that some of their fans got rather arrogant about their new investment and were telling anyone who'd listen that they'd be a real force from now on. Be challenging on all fronts etc. Be bigger than their cross park neighbours etc.

Not only has that not happened, but you've actually regressed. And frankly if you are so badly run that you sack a new manager after a few months and don't have a proper replacement well over a month later, relegation is what you should expect.
I can't talk about other Everton fans, but I think if you read back through here there was excitement, but nothing else that you mention. Oh and Koeman was in charge for longer than a few months. But yes, it was piss poor planning not to have someone lined up!

HairyMaclary

3,680 posts

197 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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hilly10 said:
Wheels are coming off the Silva wagon, let him stay where he is
Im amazed anyone thinks he's a good option for us right now. He is another Martinez imo and given the start we had will take us down.

Sam is on paper the right man for the job. Experienced enough to stabilise us.

tdm34

7,375 posts

212 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Sky Sports reporting that Allardyce will be announced today, makes tonight’s match against West Ham a bit interesting don’t you think?

Also reports of a bust up in the board room between Moshri and Kenwright point to the main reason for this delay I reckon, new start beckons, clear out in January and a new striker, maybe Luke Shaw who’s out of favour at Man Utd will bolster things at the back a bit.

Time will tell


Edited by tdm34 on Wednesday 29th November 07:42

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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tdm34 said:
Sky Sports reporting that Allardyce will be announced today, makes tonight’s match against West Ham a bit interesting don’t you think?
Even if he's announced today he won't be making the calls tonight will he? Too short notice.

I think team morale will be further damaged with the arrival of Sam, at least initially whilst he's wielding the axe. The number of players looking for an exit in January will be substantial. Not that any of them seem to deserve to be there right now.

I hope we win tonight, things would look so less bad on 15 points right now. Lose and we start to get properly cut adrift into bottom four territory foand the r st of the season.

m3sye

26,231 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Big Sammy Lee coming with him too haha

Cant believe you are going to be paying Sam fking allardyce more than Zidane or Simeone is currently on - wow
How times have changed,

m3sye

26,231 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Big Sam it is then
Looks happy about it too

https://twitter.com/GwedLid/status/935184765996666...
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