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hongkongdonkey

578 posts

144 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Driver101 said:
How is he supposed to know if it's edited or not?
I'd expect the justice minister to find out if its edited before passing comment to be honest.

scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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dalzo said:
It was dubbed over by a tiktok account called Williew*nker laugh

Other video out there showing it is clearly not the case, not stopping the permanently offended and politicians who should know better piling on.
Ah that’s reassuring then.

Can you send me a link to the unedited one? For the life of me I can’t find it unless I’m using the wrong search terms.

Either way I’m sure the police will be able to see the edits when they forensically examine the video

Scrubs

949 posts

206 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Humza Yousaf will be on a tweet deletion spree soon, unless he wants jailed under his own hate crime bill.

https://twitter.com/HumzaYousaf/status/43223553532...

https://twitter.com/HumzaYousaf/status/98158468862...






Edited by Scrubs on Monday 17th May 16:26

Scrubs

949 posts

206 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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scoopdydoo said:
Either way I’m sure the police will be able to see the edits when they forensically examine the video
https://twitter.com/durko92/status/1394211967884201985?s=20

The guy who posted the edited one on TikTok has deleted his account.

Imagine thinking that international players, many of whom are actually Catholic, would be singing and adding FTP into song. Mental.

dalzo

1,877 posts

138 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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hongkongdonkey said:
I'd expect the justice minister to find out if its edited before passing comment to be honest.


Exactly this , I also wouldn’t expect him to make comment on what the punishment should be on an investigation that hasn’t even started yet.

scoopdydoo said:
Ah that’s reassuring then.

Can you send me a link to the unedited one? For the life of me I can’t find it unless I’m using the wrong search terms.

Either way I’m sure the police will be able to see the edits when they forensically examine the video
Hope this re-assures you

https://twitter.com/durko92/status/139421196788420...

scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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dalzo said:
You’ve literally posted the video of the tiktok account you claim was edited?

Wonder why he’s throwing his middle fingers in the air too. As far as I’m aware there’s no swear words in Neil Diamond songs. Does he hate the song he’s singing? Does he hate Neil Diamond? Maybe he hates his teammates. Who knows.
Jesus, you’ve had a mare. Try again. Smarter this time please.


dalzo

1,877 posts

138 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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scoopdydoo said:
You’ve literally posted the video of the tiktok account you claim was edited?

Wonder why he’s throwing his middle fingers in the air too. As far as I’m aware there’s no swear words in Neil Diamond songs. Does he hate the song he’s singing? Does he hate Neil Diamond? Maybe he hates his teammates. Who knows.
Jesus, you’ve had a mare. Try again. Smarter this time please.

Can you hear ftp in that video?

scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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dalzo said:
Can you hear ftp in that video?
We wouldn’t be having this discussion if people couldn’t.

It’s clearly not everyone but the words are there.

Why do you suppose he is giving the finger?

dalzo

1,877 posts

138 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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scoopdydoo said:
We wouldn’t be having this discussion if people couldn’t.

It’s clearly not everyone but the words are there.

Why do you suppose he is giving the finger?
Your truly beyond help if you can hear it.

The guy has deleted his account, the people who posted it to Twitter have since deleted it and I’m sure humza useless will shortly go on a deleting spree.

scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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dalzo said:
Your truly beyond help if you can hear it.

The guy has deleted his account, the people who posted it to Twitter have since deleted it and I’m sure humza useless will shortly go on a deleting spree.
I’ll ask again. What’s the purpose of the middle finger?

People are deleting because anonymous rangers fan accounts are giving them dogs abuse for it. No wonder.

dalzo

1,877 posts

138 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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scoopdydoo said:
I’ll ask again. What’s the purpose of the middle finger?

People are deleting because anonymous rangers fan accounts are giving them dogs abuse for it. No wonder.
Who knows , drunken silliness? is that what’s holding your argument up? A middle finger? You literally can’t hear it, it isn’t being said but you think a middle finger is enough to confirm your accusation laugh

No, people are deleting it because it’s a load of crap and there own stupidity and bigoted confirmation bias is being shown.

scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.

dxbtiger

4,401 posts

175 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Just popping in for clarity, Rangers have won a two horse race and in celebration have knocked the st out of their own?



Edited by dxbtiger on Monday 17th May 17:37

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Scrubs said:
scoopdydoo said:
Either way I’m sure the police will be able to see the edits when they forensically examine the video
https://twitter.com/durko92/status/1394211967884201985?s=20

The guy who posted the edited one on TikTok has deleted his account.

Imagine thinking that international players, many of whom are actually Catholic, would be singing and adding FTP into song. Mental.
The video that was shared a number of times was longer than that. It keeps getting deleted whenever shared even without the suggestion what the video contains.

The part everyone was specific about where they heard the phrase was on the second rendition and not the first. The shortened video doesn't really help the situation one bit. It has cut out the part people were very specific about. It looks a bit dodgy to be honest when the part people were concentrating on has been removed.

Has anyone been specifically named as saying the words? Would it really be a surprise if someone in the group did sing it?

The Rangers supporters have sung anti Catholic things in front of them and had stadium bans from UEFA for it. It was also widespread in Glasgow on Saturday. It's not exactly a rarely heard term from Rangers.



scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Driver101 said:
The video that was shared a number of times was longer than that. It keeps getting deleted whenever shared even without the suggestion what the video contains.

The part everyone was specific about where they heard the phrase was on the second rendition and not the first. The shortened video doesn't really help the situation one bit. It has cut out the part people were very specific about. It looks a bit dodgy to be honest when the part people were concentrating on has been removed.

Has anyone been specifically named as saying the words? Would it really be a surprise if someone in the group did sing it?

The Rangers supporters have sung anti Catholic things in front of them and had stadium bans from UEFA for it. It was also widespread in Glasgow on Saturday. It's not exactly a rarely heard term from Rangers.
It’s not like the old club didn’t have videos of certain individuals, staff, and players, singing anti-catholic songs either.

Strange that Rangers would put out a statement saying the video must be doctored ‘because we wouldn’t sing that.’

Inadvertently admitting the words are in the video.

Incredible video editing skills too to find all the claps and table smack to add up, what are the chances someone found the exact correct audio to match up everything.

Terzo123

4,345 posts

210 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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The Rangers statement about the video has clearly been doctored as there is no mention of 55 anywhere. laugh

simoid

19,772 posts

160 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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scoopdydoo said:
It’s not like the old club didn’t have videos of certain individuals, staff, and players, singing anti-catholic songs either.

Strange that Rangers would put out a statement saying the video must be doctored ‘because we wouldn’t sing that.’

Inadvertently admitting the words are in the video.

Incredible video editing skills too to find all the claps and table smack to add up, what are the chances someone found the exact correct audio to match up everything.
If I were going to edit the video to include something like that, I wouldn’t change the whole audio. I’d just use the existing one and put an “f”’and “th” sound on top.

FWIW if I imagine the words in my head when listening, I can hear it very faintly. If I don’t, I don’t. I’m fairly sure I’m not unique in that interpretation.

Anyone remember green needle and brainstorm? I’m about 99.9% sure that doesn’t get interpreted as f t p beyond any threshold of doubt.

https://youtu.be/qXxV2C1ri2k

Edited by simoid on Monday 17th May 18:58

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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The Scotsman have put out a powerful article.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/ra...

scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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simoid said:
If I were going to edit the video to include something like that, I wouldn’t change the whole audio. I’d just use the existing one and put an “f”’and “th” sound on top.

FWIW if I imagine the words in my head when listening, I can hear it very faintly. If I don’t, I don’t. I’m fairly sure I’m not unique in that interpretation.

Anyone remember green needle and brainstorm? I’m about 99.9% sure that doesn’t get interpreted as f t p beyond any threshold of doubt.

https://youtu.be/qXxV2C1ri2k

Edited by simoid on Monday 17th May 18:58
And the blue-black/white-gold dress. But if the dress in the photo had a label on it with the colour, in this case the middle finger thrown up at the appropriate time, it would end the debate.

If I were editing a video, I would make it far more clear so there was no doubt, why make it so some might argue they’re not saying it?
I’m also not sure you can add little bits in tiktok, or during a live stream, which it appears to be? I’m not down with the kids using that app to be honest.

scoopdydoo

401 posts

91 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Driver101 said:
The Scotsman have put out a powerful article.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/ra...
Big Ooft! Strong article for sure. Good to see it finally being talked about in such strong terms, beginning to fell like a bit of a watershed moment.
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