The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 10)
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Just to say whoever gets the job interim or full time then they need to be given fair time to steady the ship. Endless flapping like headless chickens as a club just prolongs the mismanaged cycle. That's my 2p worth and I'll always g8ve my support to the club thro good and bad times. Nuff said from me.
TEKNOPUG said:
Whoever you choose, has to be a permanent manager now. An interim manager sounds like a terrible decision. Are the players going to listen to or respect someone they know will be gone in the summer? Who is going to be making the transfer calls in January?
Exactly. You could sign a manager now to start at the end of the season, miss out on CL and the guy would be picking up Europa League (or Conference 
) football for a season. All this compared to what would be sold to him; a team that could win the CL next season. How many managers would take that chance? Not many of the big names and probably none on the United shopping list.
selym said:
Exactly. You could sign a manager now to start at the end of the season, miss out on CL and the guy would be picking up Europa League (or Conference ) football for a season. All this compared to what would be sold to him; a team that could win the CL next season.
How many managers would take that chance? Not many of the big names and probably none on the United shopping list.
Yeah, because a manager for next season won’t have the brains to work that out for himself would he ) football for a season. All this compared to what would be sold to him; a team that could win the CL next season. How many managers would take that chance? Not many of the big names and probably none on the United shopping list.
Equally, take a look back a few replies, you’ll we how the argument about a caretaker manager being useless was completely disproved a few years ago. The only problem with a caretaker manager as far as I can see is when people get swept up in their success and appoint them full time.
unident said:
Yeah, because a manager for next season won’t have the brains to work that out for himself would he
Equally, take a look back a few replies, you’ll we how the argument about a caretaker manager being useless was completely disproved a few years ago. The only problem with a caretaker manager as far as I can see is when people get swept up in their success and appoint them full time.
It’s all very confusing as we also have a midfield in disarray and defence that’s so fEqually, take a look back a few replies, you’ll we how the argument about a caretaker manager being useless was completely disproved a few years ago. The only problem with a caretaker manager as far as I can see is when people get swept up in their success and appoint them full time.
ked Poch wouldn’t stand a chance of winning anything with us yet a caretaker might get a tune out of the squad like Ole did a couple of years ago??????Or more likely our friends from up the East Lancs are starting to realise that landing Poch right know could actually happen, which would be a fantastic result for United and us United fans. Genuine light at the end of the tunnel. No longer the laughing stock we have been for some time but with a manager capable of making us really competitive again.
unident said:
Ntv said:
United pay more. And under Ferguson could obviously attract top players on the strength of their incredible success.
The second factor has obviously long gone.
I just don't see Poch as among the very top group of managers. He did do a very good until the last 18 months at Tottenham, and much of the blame for the decline didn't sit with him.
But he's not been successful enough throughout his career to bracket him with Pep, Klopp and Conte
I was delighted we (spurs) got Conte and not Poch back, much as I think the latter is a very decent manager and seems a good guy.
I very much doubt you will win the PL or CL with Poch. Good chance of getting 4th over time however.
Who’s bracketing him with any of those three? The three you’ve mentioned are hugely different managers too. Plus the only club Poch has been at with a realistic chance of winning anything is PSG. The fact he almost won things with Spurs is a massive tick in his CV. The second factor has obviously long gone.
I just don't see Poch as among the very top group of managers. He did do a very good until the last 18 months at Tottenham, and much of the blame for the decline didn't sit with him.
But he's not been successful enough throughout his career to bracket him with Pep, Klopp and Conte
I was delighted we (spurs) got Conte and not Poch back, much as I think the latter is a very decent manager and seems a good guy.
I very much doubt you will win the PL or CL with Poch. Good chance of getting 4th over time however.
It does feel a bit like you’re writing stuff down trying to convince yourself that this wouldn’t be an excellent move for United.
Nonsense re Poch only realistic chance of winning at PSG
He had a great chance to win the league in the big three hiatus. How many points were needed to win it? Had the best defence and the best attack arguably, but lacked consistency. Nor did he even manage a cup with all that talent.
I think it would be an OK move for United. But there's no return to PL and CL trophies under Poch.
You'll be fighting for 4th (with Spurs, Leicester and West Ham).
unident said:
selym said:
Exactly. You could sign a manager now to start at the end of the season, miss out on CL and the guy would be picking up Europa League (or Conference ) football for a season. All this compared to what would be sold to him; a team that could win the CL next season.
How many managers would take that chance? Not many of the big names and probably none on the United shopping list.
Yeah, because a manager for next season won’t have the brains to work that out for himself would he ) football for a season. All this compared to what would be sold to him; a team that could win the CL next season. How many managers would take that chance? Not many of the big names and probably none on the United shopping list.
Equally, take a look back a few replies, you’ll we how the argument about a caretaker manager being useless was completely disproved a few years ago. The only problem with a caretaker manager as far as I can see is when people get swept up in their success and appoint them full time.
You can always flounce if you don't like the new appointment though. I hear City are doing ok at the moment.
selym said:
unident said:
selym said:
Exactly. You could sign a manager now to start at the end of the season, miss out on CL and the guy would be picking up Europa League (or Conference ) football for a season. All this compared to what would be sold to him; a team that could win the CL next season.
How many managers would take that chance? Not many of the big names and probably none on the United shopping list.
Yeah, because a manager for next season won’t have the brains to work that out for himself would he ) football for a season. All this compared to what would be sold to him; a team that could win the CL next season. How many managers would take that chance? Not many of the big names and probably none on the United shopping list.
Equally, take a look back a few replies, you’ll we how the argument about a caretaker manager being useless was completely disproved a few years ago. The only problem with a caretaker manager as far as I can see is when people get swept up in their success and appoint them full time.
You can always flounce if you don't like the new appointment though. I hear City are doing ok at the moment.
Things seem to have escalated quickly in here. People came along to discuss things nicely but seem quite upset now. Shall we have a group hug and get back to praying that the owners stumble on the right solution for once?
Situation is as follows: We’re fked at the moment.
Rodgers could be better than Ole but nobody seems to want him (so that’s probably who we’ll get
). Poch could be good. Ten Hag could be better.
Nobody knows really.
PS BFS is not interested in the job as it’s too big a task
Situation is as follows: We’re f
ked at the moment. Rodgers could be better than Ole but nobody seems to want him (so that’s probably who we’ll get
). Poch could be good. Ten Hag could be better. Nobody knows really.
PS BFS is not interested in the job as it’s too big a task
unident said:
TEKNOPUG said:
unident said:
Ole was a caretaker manager, take a look at his record as caretaker. Feel free to come back and tell us what you think then.
He took over when United were 6th in the league and 21 games later, they finished 6th in the league 
Played 19 W14 D 2 L 3
Kind of suggests your argument is bit buggered.
JeffreyD said:
Isn't that sort of the point?
You appoint a caretaker, then when he performs well there's a clamour to make it long term.
You'd be better writing off the season than risking that.
Nope, it was the exact opposite his point was:You appoint a caretaker, then when he performs well there's a clamour to make it long term.
You'd be better writing off the season than risking that.
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I know you love an argument so
Given what you did to you last interim manager I'd be very nervous of appointing another.
If they come in and win 15 on the bounce you'll be stuck. May be great for a while but it's not a long term strategy.
200Plus Club said:
unident said:
I’m just praying this happens. At that point you’ll see a new me. I’ll be more of a cheerleader than 200plus has ever been. I genuinely think he is the perfect fit for us.
Judging by how you whinge and argue endlessly on other threads I can't see that happening or Ord not flapping either lolORD said:
If unident becomes positive, I can go back to being the resident cry baby.
I’ll be ecstatic if we get Poch. I was calling for him this time last year and was really pissed off when he went to PSG. He’s got a big job on his hands, but he’s proven he’s capable of taking it on and sorting stuff out. I’m happy to give him time. I’ve said before that I don’t care if we lose / draw games, as long as I can see that there’s a longer term plan in there. That was why I was so outspoken about Ole. I’ll be equally f
ked off if we get Rodgers and even better for the cheerleader will be walking away. I won’t be going elsewhere for football thrills, other than maybe keeping an eye on my local(ish) very lower league side. JeffreyD said:
I know you love an argument so
Given what you did to you last interim manager I'd be very nervous of appointing another.
If they come in and win 15 on the bounce you'll be stuck. May be great for a while but it's not a long term strategy.
You’re the Liverpool supporter who’s popped in here to attempt a wind up. Pretty certain the club won’t be that stupid again, even with the numpty owners. Given what you did to you last interim manager I'd be very nervous of appointing another.
If they come in and win 15 on the bounce you'll be stuck. May be great for a while but it's not a long term strategy.
Winning 15 on the bounce would have you lot crying though, so could be good fun, as that would put us right back in the hunt. Not that it would happen.
unident said:
TEKNOPUG said:
unident said:
Ole was a caretaker manager, take a look at his record as caretaker. Feel free to come back and tell us what you think then.
He took over when United were 6th in the league and 21 games later, they finished 6th in the league Played 19 W14 D 2 L 3
Kind of suggests your argument is bit buggered.
Challo said:
ORD said:
Moyes was a joke. Absolutely terrible. He wasn’t a fall guy. Just a useless manager.
Everton he was very good, and seems to be doing good things with West Ham. I wouldn’t say a useless manager just not right for us at the time. General question Ord but have you been happy with any of our managers? You seem a hard man to please with managers or players? A lot seem to be not good enough
TEKNOPUG said:
I guess they all stopped listening or respecting him once they realised he wasn't going to bugger off in the summer
They did and that’s exactly why he should never have been appointed full time. The down turn in performance was shocking. I could have a sensible decision with my thoughts as to why it changed, but you’re just here on the wind up adm I’ve proven your wind up was a waste of time 
unident said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I guess they all stopped listening or respecting him once they realised he wasn't going to bugger off in the summer
They did and that’s exactly why he should never have been appointed full time. The down turn in performance was shocking. I could have a sensible decision with my thoughts as to why it changed, but you’re just here on the wind up adm I’ve proven your wind up was a waste of time GTO-3R said:
Maguire has been awful for us, but how much of that is down to coaching? He was very good for Leicester and always is for England too which leads me to believe there is a player in there, but he's not our captain. The price we paid for him isn't his fault and has only added more pressure on his shoulders too but he needs a kick up the arse!
If heading was banned, he'd be as useful as a solar-powered torch.He's not fast-enough, always out of position, ball-watches/marks space, not people.
Ntv said:
unident said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I guess they all stopped listening or respecting him once they realised he wasn't going to bugger off in the summer
They did and that’s exactly why he should never have been appointed full time. The down turn in performance was shocking. I could have a sensible decision with my thoughts as to why it changed, but you’re just here on the wind up adm I’ve proven your wind up was a waste of time Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff