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Scottish Champions heading into the New Year with a 6 point lead will do for now.
Rangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
Rangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
Scrubs said:
Scottish Champions heading into the New Year with a 6 point lead will do for now.
Rangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
Why have rangers made a big fuss about the break going ahead? Made a big stance. Sporting integrity etc yet the very next day they, themselves, actual rangers cancelled the rangers vs celtic B team game until crowds return. I'm now sitting confused with rangers stance? Rangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
Play on only when it suits them? Oh yea. Thatll be the stance. Usual.
Anyway looking good for going back to crowds. England haven't introduced anything. Hospital numbers staying steady. Looks like little Hitler jamp the gun. If so bringing the break early was the best decision for the rest of the league. (Except rangers for some reason...except the B team)
Edited by hotchy on Monday 27th December 16:40
On another note, I see Abroath doing really well in the Championship. Sitting level top on points with ICT just now. What a story that would be if they were to get promotion. Gayfield might just be the coldest place on earth I have ever watched a game of football, but they can still hold almost 7K (more than Dens I think) and at least have a grass pitch.
No doubt they'd do straight back down again, but would be something different for a change if they made it up.
No doubt they'd do straight back down again, but would be something different for a change if they made it up.
hotchy said:
Why have rangers made a big fuss about the break going ahead? Made a big stance.I'm now sitting confused with rangers stance?
Rangers have never made any statement about the break getting brought forward, unless you mean Allan McGregors presser comments on it? Only thing they mentioned was the frustration of only 500 supporters being allowed in to the St Mirren game.As for the B team game, part of the whole point of it is to give youngsters experience of playing in front of crowds, no?
Noticed the Celtic line ups recently, so I completely understand why they fired out a 'we need a break' statement ASAP
Scrubs said:
Rangers have never made any statement about the break getting brought forward, unless you mean Allan McGregors presser comments on it?
As for the B team game, part of the whole point of it is to give youngsters experience of playing in front of crowds, no?
His statement was an embarrassment. Given his history talking about sporting integrity is hilarious. As for the B team game, part of the whole point of it is to give youngsters experience of playing in front of crowds, no?
Rangers were the only club to oppose the break being early. Why is it always Rangers that are at odds with the rest of Scottish football?
The B team game. You're buying that excuse?
The game was scheduled for Dumbarton. Only because the game was on Hogmanay was there far more requests for tickets and the game was switched to Ibrox.
Rangers can't afford to refund the ticket money.
Scrubs said:
Scottish Champions heading into the New Year with a 6 point lead will do for now.
Rangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
They were really goodRangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
Jordan Campbell from the athletic pointed out the tailored set ups for each match( like tav moving more centrally so wright could go stretch them out wide) and it is working so well, it really could have been 5 or 6 had Morelos been a bit more clinical. Aribo is just unstoppable right now,he’s levels above anyone in this league. Wright like you say also had a brilliant game, his pace is unreal although a few times he didn’t lift his head to pick out a man.
It was always going to creep up and shows how much of a stupid decision it was to stop the football, Christmas holidays and instead of even being able to watch games on tv there’s now nothing.
Doncaster came out and has said there pretty much no room for anymore breaks in the season now, what happens now if two teams can’t field a full squad? It was poor leadership from them.
Celtic took advantage of it because they are dropping like flies and now look like they might have a bit of covid going about if rumours are true so no wonder they pushed for it. They essentially shat there pants to face us. It was a nice wee bit of karma seeing st mirren get a result though.
dalzo said:
Scrubs said:
Scottish Champions heading into the New Year with a 6 point lead will do for now.
Rangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
They were really goodRangers played some superb football yesterday. Was 2 nil going on 5. The slight changes that Gio has made really seem to be suiting the players who have looked much more full of confidence in what they are doing recently. Aribo and Kamara are unplayable at times and a joy to watch. Morelos has also looked sharper and fitter in recent months. Scott Wright’s best game in a Gers shirt.. MoTM performance.
I see the esteemed SPFL have pipped up today about the 'Covid Row'
"Clubs must play fixtures to maintain sporting integrity. Failure to administer the policy consistently could lead to clubs choosing not to fulfill specific fixtures, which would have massive implications for sporting fairness''
A bit late for that, lads
Jordan Campbell from the athletic pointed out the tailored set ups for each match( like tav moving more centrally so wright could go stretch them out wide) and it is working so well, it really could have been 5 or 6 had Morelos been a bit more clinical. Aribo is just unstoppable right now,he’s levels above anyone in this league. Wright like you say also had a brilliant game, his pace is unreal although a few times he didn’t lift his head to pick out a man.
It was always going to creep up and shows how much of a stupid decision it was to stop the football, Christmas holidays and instead of even being able to watch games on tv there’s now nothing.
Doncaster came out and has said there pretty much no room for anymore breaks in the season now, what happens now if two teams can’t field a full squad? It was poor leadership from them.
Celtic took advantage of it because they are dropping like flies and now look like they might have a bit of covid going about if rumours are true so no wonder they pushed for it. They essentially shat there pants to face us. It was a nice wee bit of karma seeing st mirren get a result though.
All this celtic took advantage nonsense. When we play you were missing the same main players for international duty so makes no difference. Giving fans who pay big money a chance to see the games in person is alot more important than "on the tv"
Aberdeen would loose near £1m and are already in a precarious position financially. Many other teams the same. For once think of someone other than you watching it on the TV. Just because rangers went bust doesn't mean we need to watch other teams go bust. These would be through no fault of there own either. Grow up.
hotchy said:
Why did rangers delay the rangers B vs celtic B lower league teams? Hypocrisy.
All this celtic took advantage nonsense. When we play you were missing the same main players for international duty so makes no difference. Giving fans who pay big money a chance to see the games in person is alot more important than "on the tv"
Aberdeen would loose near £1m and are already in a precarious position financially. Many other teams the same. For once think of someone other than you watching it on the TV. Just because rangers went bust doesn't mean we need to watch other teams go bust. These would be through no fault of there own either. Grow up.
As far as I’m aware turnbull and jota won’t be on international duty, two key players, joe hart missing just now too, kyogo seems to be the only one on international duty. It has also given Celtic a chance to go from injury ridden to a transfer window where they can strengthen.All this celtic took advantage nonsense. When we play you were missing the same main players for international duty so makes no difference. Giving fans who pay big money a chance to see the games in person is alot more important than "on the tv"
Aberdeen would loose near £1m and are already in a precarious position financially. Many other teams the same. For once think of someone other than you watching it on the TV. Just because rangers went bust doesn't mean we need to watch other teams go bust. These would be through no fault of there own either. Grow up.
As I’ve said previously I’d have preferred fans in but the solution to no fans is no football is just stupid in the extreme. Everyone knows the protocols that were put in place last season, if they implemented them it would now leave space in the fixture list. Football games are won by players not fans.
Aberdeen and the rest of the club are absolutely within thier rights to have voted for their own reasons, my entire point was celtics reasons, Aberdeen would only have lost the gate money from the rangers game which is about 500k. It’s hysterical bulls
t to suggest that teams would go bust from missing 2 games worth of ticket money. In summary. Celtic shat themselves and needed a hand from the spfl to stop rangers putting 5 past them.
The winter break being brought forward to benefit a certain club will rage on and is a bit of a side show, I understand why the 500 fans plays a part in bring forward the winter break.
What I can't get my head around is even by doing this there is a real risk of no fans being in place when we do restart anyway, but put that to the side, the next challenge is we now have no headroom in the season for slippage therefore there is a risk the season cannot complete. That is the real issue in all of this.
That risk is real in the short term when we restart with a risk of postponed games. Players picking up covid just as most of the public are. Yes they are tested more rigorously but the virus is that prominent there is a greater chance of players picking it up, and have which results in postponed games.
What I can't get my head around is even by doing this there is a real risk of no fans being in place when we do restart anyway, but put that to the side, the next challenge is we now have no headroom in the season for slippage therefore there is a risk the season cannot complete. That is the real issue in all of this.
That risk is real in the short term when we restart with a risk of postponed games. Players picking up covid just as most of the public are. Yes they are tested more rigorously but the virus is that prominent there is a greater chance of players picking it up, and have which results in postponed games.
CSK423 said:
The winter break being brought forward to benefit a certain club will rage on and is a bit of a side show, I understand why the 500 fans plays a part in bring forward the winter break.
What I can't get my head around is even by doing this there is a real risk of no fans being in place when we do restart anyway, but put that to the side, the next challenge is we now have no headroom in the season for slippage therefore there is a risk the season cannot complete. That is the real issue in all of this.
That risk is real in the short term when we restart with a risk of postponed games. Players picking up covid just as most of the public are. Yes they are tested more rigorously but the virus is that prominent there is a greater chance of players picking it up, and have which results in postponed games.
It's only raging on because of poor attempts like your post to stir a reaction. You again miss the fact that 11 out of 12 teams voted for the break to be brought in early. Yet all we hear on here is Celtic, Celtic, Celtic. It's clouding too many people's judgement and it makes them look daft. What I can't get my head around is even by doing this there is a real risk of no fans being in place when we do restart anyway, but put that to the side, the next challenge is we now have no headroom in the season for slippage therefore there is a risk the season cannot complete. That is the real issue in all of this.
That risk is real in the short term when we restart with a risk of postponed games. Players picking up covid just as most of the public are. Yes they are tested more rigorously but the virus is that prominent there is a greater chance of players picking it up, and have which results in postponed games.
The first lockdown it was Rangers that flatly refused to play without fans. Now they are the only club desperate to push forward without fans and both times citing sporting integrity as the issue. At the very same time they cancelled a B team game with Celtic due to wanting the gate money with lots of fans coming. If Rangers were at least consistent, their opinions wouldn't be mocked. They only undermine themselves all the time.
The break is being taken early. It was going to be a break anyway. What difference does it make if the break started now or next week?
We've been very close to having more games in the premier cancelled before now. We've got managers questioning sporting integrity being forced to play games with so many players out. If we carried on playing now it's 100% certain more games would be called off in the premier league.
Look at the amount of games called off in England. Boxing day 3 EPL games were called off. Championship and below only 9 games survived. Most of the games are called off again today. 2 of the 5 Scottish championship games are off.
The English fans are all unhappy at being forced to play games with so many players out, but other teams having games cancelled. It's leading to a fallout over fairness. I'm sure they'd be happier to take a break(like many have asked for) and see how things are.
In a few weeks time games might need to be played in front of little or no fans. There is a chance that there will be a lot more let in. The only thing for certain is if they were played now there would be 500 fans.
Moving the winter break forward was an absolute no-brainer. It's hard to understand how people are struggling with the reasons and why they all have to come with conspiracy theories ignoring what has actually happened.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 29th December 14:01
Driver101 said:
It's only raging on because of poor attempts like your post to stir a reaction. You again miss the fact that 11 out of 12 teams voted for the break to be brought in early. Yet all we hear on here is Celtic, Celtic, Celtic. It's clouding too many people's judgement and it makes them look daft.
The first lockdown it was Rangers that flatly refused to play without fans. Now they are the only club desperate to push forward without fans and both times citing sporting integrity as the issue. At the very same time they cancelled a B team game with Celtic due to wanting the gate money with lots of fans coming. If Rangers were at least consistent, their opinions wouldn't be mocked. They only undermine themselves all the time.
The break is being taken early. It was going to be a break anyway. What difference does it make if the break started now or next week?
We've been very close to having more games in the premier cancelled before now. We've got managers questioning sporting integrity being forced to play games with so many players out. If we carried on playing now it's 100% certain more games would be called off in the premier league.
Look at the amount of games called off in England. Boxing day 3 EPL games were called off. Championship and below only 9 games survived. Most of the games are called off again today. 2 of the 5 Scottish championship games are off.
The English fans are all unhappy at being forced to play games with so many players out, but other teams having games cancelled. It's leading to a fallout over fairness. I'm sure they'd be happier to take a break(like many have asked for) and see how things are.
In a few weeks time games might need to be played in front of little or no fans. There is a chance that there will be a lot more let in. The only thing for certain is if they were played now there would be 500 fans.
Moving the winter break forward was an absolute no-brainer. It's hard to understand how people are struggling with the reasons and why they all have to come with conspiracy theories ignoring what has actually happened.
By the way I didn't voice anything around rangers or celtic that wasn't my point, if anything I stated that was a side show !The first lockdown it was Rangers that flatly refused to play without fans. Now they are the only club desperate to push forward without fans and both times citing sporting integrity as the issue. At the very same time they cancelled a B team game with Celtic due to wanting the gate money with lots of fans coming. If Rangers were at least consistent, their opinions wouldn't be mocked. They only undermine themselves all the time.
The break is being taken early. It was going to be a break anyway. What difference does it make if the break started now or next week?
We've been very close to having more games in the premier cancelled before now. We've got managers questioning sporting integrity being forced to play games with so many players out. If we carried on playing now it's 100% certain more games would be called off in the premier league.
Look at the amount of games called off in England. Boxing day 3 EPL games were called off. Championship and below only 9 games survived. Most of the games are called off again today. 2 of the 5 Scottish championship games are off.
The English fans are all unhappy at being forced to play games with so many players out, but other teams having games cancelled. It's leading to a fallout over fairness. I'm sure they'd be happier to take a break(like many have asked for) and see how things are.
In a few weeks time games might need to be played in front of little or no fans. There is a chance that there will be a lot more let in. The only thing for certain is if they were played now there would be 500 fans.
Moving the winter break forward was an absolute no-brainer. It's hard to understand how people are struggling with the reasons and why they all have to come with conspiracy theories ignoring what has actually happened.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 29th December 14:01
The point was delaying games knowing there is no headroom left, therefore it definitely wasn't a no brainer to do this.
CSK423 said:
By the way I didn't voice anything around rangers or celtic that wasn't my point, if anything I stated that was a side show !
The point was delaying games knowing there is no headroom left, therefore it definitely wasn't a no brainer to do this.
It's an invalid point that doesn't need regurgitated again and again. The point was delaying games knowing there is no headroom left, therefore it definitely wasn't a no brainer to do this.
They aren't delaying games. They have started the planned winter break early.
Driver101 said:
It's an invalid point that doesn't need regurgitated again and again.
They aren't delaying games. They have started the planned winter break early.
It's a very valid point, look at 2019-2020 season as an example.They aren't delaying games. They have started the planned winter break early.
By bringing forward the break you are delaying games, that is a FACT.
Anyway let's leave it at that for now, I look forward to football resuming after the winter break and hope fans are back in the grounds. Currently it looks slim but let's hold onto that hope if not for the restart but very shortly afterwards.
CSK423 said:
It's a very valid point, look at 2019-2020 season as an example.
By bringing forward the break you are delaying games, that is a FACT.
Anyway let's leave it at that for now, I look forward to football resuming after the winter break and hope fans are back in the grounds. Currently it looks slim but let's hold onto that hope if not for the restart but very shortly afterwards.
How does the 2019/20 season compare to what is happening now? By bringing forward the break you are delaying games, that is a FACT.
Anyway let's leave it at that for now, I look forward to football resuming after the winter break and hope fans are back in the grounds. Currently it looks slim but let's hold onto that hope if not for the restart but very shortly afterwards.
The winter break ends sooner than the original restart date and the games will be played then.
Driver101 said:
You again miss the fact that 11 out of 12 teams voted for the break to be brought in early.
No they didn't.Driver101 said:
The English fans are all unhappy at being forced to play games
No they aren't.dalzo said:
Kick in the balls for Ryan porteous as he gets a three match ban for kicking someone in the balls.
He's not that type of player though.. 
Scrubs said:
Driver101 said:
You again miss the fact that 11 out of 12 teams voted for the break to be brought in early.
No they didn't.Even if Ross County didn't change their opinion it's still being pedantic. The vast majority of clubs wanted the break.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 29th December 21:43
Every club has voted on what was best for them. For some that is a bet on fans returning after 3 weeks and limiting loses, others hoping their depleted squads will have recovered. Those views don't necessarily line up with what is best for Scottish football and now according to Doncaster we no scope for rearrangements. I feel this is an unnecessary gamble on the weather and covid when teams were capable of playing games, albeit without fans. It also opens up questions on the motives of some teams. Some will gain an advantage due to injured players returning, adding to their squads during the transfer window, isolating players returning etc. while others have played through these difficulties already this season. Weak governance again from those at the top who have now put unnecessary pressure on the fixture schedule and allowed the sporting integrity of our game to be questioned.
hongkongdonkey said:
Every club has voted on what was best for them. For some that is a bet on fans returning after 3 weeks and limiting loses, others hoping their depleted squads will have recovered. Those views don't necessarily line up with what is best for Scottish football and now according to Doncaster we no scope for rearrangements. I feel this is an unnecessary gamble on the weather and covid when teams were capable of playing games, albeit without fans. It also opens up questions on the motives of some teams. Some will gain an advantage due to injured players returning, adding to their squads during the transfer window, isolating players returning etc. while others have played through these difficulties already this season. Weak governance again from those at the top who have now put unnecessary pressure on the fixture schedule and allowed the sporting integrity of our game to be questioned.
So we should just follow what one club wants? The Rangers football club have shown already they have very little integrity of any kind.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff