Scientists. PAH!

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Jetl3on

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197 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Painful reading, but I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".

Metro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Why couldn't we be descendants from those eels or distant distant relatives?, if we share a similar DNA pattern it's a possibility?.
I'm certainly no scientist (I think that shows easily hehe ) but I don't find it difficult to believe.

Carless Fury

455 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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I would question the validity of gravity if the Metro were claim that it existed.

CBR JGWRR

6,543 posts

150 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Carless Fury said:
I would question the validity of gravity if the Metro were claim that it existed.
True.

DrTre

12,955 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Piss poor reporting aside, it's perfectly.plausible and fits exactly with evolutionary theory....not really sure what the issue is?

Caruso

7,445 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Jetl3on said:
Painful reading, but I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".
Scientists publish their work in order to allow other scientists to disprove their conclusions or pick holes in the evidence. It's part of the scientific method. Journalists may also pick up on it and publish it to a lay audience if the findings are significant or unusual.

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Yes, scientists make everything up and just lark around having competitions as to who can produce the most outrageous assertion. In this case it's clear that one scientist got his cock out and another remarked it looked like a tiny pathetic eel, and from that hilarity they concocted a tale about people descending from eels with some stuff about DNA mixed in. But all this is OK, because it's not as if science has given you everything you own, provided you with the lifestyle that you lead or that you probably owe your life to science as well as the lives of your family.

98elise

26,814 posts

162 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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ZOLLAR said:
Why couldn't we be descendants from those eels or distant distant relatives?, if we share a similar DNA pattern it's a possibility?.
I'm certainly no scientist (I think that shows easily hehe ) but I don't find it difficult to believe.
If you go back far enough we share a common ancestor with every living creature. We come from a long line of weird animals, most of which we have no knowledge or record of.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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carmonk said:
Yes, scientists make everything up and just lark around having competitions as to who can produce the most outrageous assertion. In this case it's clear that one scientist got his cock out and another remarked it looked like a tiny pathetic eel, and from that hilarity they concocted a tale about people descending from eels with some stuff about DNA mixed in. But all this is OK, because it's not as if science has given you everything you own, provided you with the lifestyle that you lead or that you probably owe your life to science as well as the lives of your family.
Yeah but apart from that, what has science ever done for us? hehe

otolith

56,492 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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They've found the earliest yet known fossil of a chordate. It's important because chordates are the evolutionary line through which all vertebrate animals (and a few notable invertebrate lines which branched off early) are evolved. It's not just something off our ancestral line, it's off the line which is also common to all other mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians and fish.

Simpo Two

85,783 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Jetl3on said:
Painful reading, but I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".

Metro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".
Why shouldn't it be correct?

As a student we had Amphioxus as the first organism with a notochord, the forerunner of a spine and therefore of vertebrates.

XJSsometimeSoon

378 posts

160 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Jetl3on said:
Painful reading, but I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".

Metro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".
EFA

Really pisses me off when a species name is not in italics

deadtom

2,582 posts

166 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Jetl3on said:
I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".
not sure if trolling or just stupid...

Jetl3on

Original Poster:

1,409 posts

197 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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haha, I was expecting that. Dont get defensive, it was a tongue in cheek comment, im not dissing your importance and contribution to society, It would be great to see some consistency in your findings, you lot are always disproving and contradicting each other (yes I know, thats the route to discovery).

I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.

And whilst we are on the subject of "what did you do for us", alongside all the good you have done, you are also responsible for some equally nasty stuff, nothing to be proud of.

On the whole you are a necessary evil smile

Edited by Jetl3on on Tuesday 6th March 15:37

Jetl3on

Original Poster:

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197 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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deadtom said:
Jetl3on said:
I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".
not sure if trolling or just stupid...
Not sure what Trolling is, so possibly the latter.

seefarr

1,477 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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deadtom said:
Jetl3on said:
I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".
not sure if trolling or just stupid...
Trolling. He's into Jebus.

Here's a great line from another god-botherer that I think might apply:

"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Jetl3on said:
deadtom said:
Jetl3on said:
I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".
not sure if trolling or just stupid...
Not sure what Trolling is, so possibly the latter.
Six of one...

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Jetl3on said:
Painful reading, but I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".

Metro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".
This sounds like something that has been made up so we have to pay more taxes. Guess who pays these so-called-scientists for their so-called research? THE GOVERNMENT.

So the men in white coats just churn out whatever the government want us to hear. It's a propaganda machine designed to brainwash us and empty our pockets. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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carmonk said:
Yes, scientists make everything up and just lark around having competitions as to who can produce the most outrageous assertion. In this case it's clear that one scientist got his cock out and another remarked it looked like a tiny pathetic eel, and from that hilarity they concocted a tale about people descending from eels with some stuff about DNA mixed in. But all this is OK, because it's not as if science has given you everything you own, provided you with the lifestyle that you lead or that you probably owe your life to science as well as the lives of your family.
Yes...

Thank Odin, they saved us from global warming...how can we ever repay them?

Huzzah for scientists everywhere...



carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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This thread has been infected by stupid and should be quarantined.