Mythbusters fail to bust sniper myth
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I remember years ago watching an episode of Myth Busters in which they wanted to see if a jet could take off on a conveyor belt. They proved it could but the experiment was seriously flawed in many ways as a jet can only take off if the air passing over and under the wing is sufficient enough to cause lift. Without lift, if the wheels just turn the jet will never take off as it is effectively not moving.
Today I found a video about the sniper on sniper myth. This is based partly on the Saving Private Ryan myth. In this video the myth busters catagorically prove the shot to be a myth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1U8YVWyMYY&fea...
However, I watched a documentary on the real story behind saving private ryan where they actually recreated the shot and proved it could be done to a certain distance (more than the 100 yards tried in MB) and managed it. They said it couldnt be done at some one in a church tower due to the angles and arc required but they did prove it over a level shot.
However MB failed to do the shot so they conclude it is still a myth which calls into question all their work on items such as the jet on a conveyor belt.
Today I found a video about the sniper on sniper myth. This is based partly on the Saving Private Ryan myth. In this video the myth busters catagorically prove the shot to be a myth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1U8YVWyMYY&fea...
However, I watched a documentary on the real story behind saving private ryan where they actually recreated the shot and proved it could be done to a certain distance (more than the 100 yards tried in MB) and managed it. They said it couldnt be done at some one in a church tower due to the angles and arc required but they did prove it over a level shot.
However MB failed to do the shot so they conclude it is still a myth which calls into question all their work on items such as the jet on a conveyor belt.
The doc on Saving Private Ryan was flawed as well. They said that the shot could be done at 100 yards but not at 400yards due to the ballistic trajectory required, meaning that the bullet would be dropping at too steep an angle.
Except that in the film, the shot is take from the ground and up to a 4th floor window. So probably an angle of 30 degrees or more. Now the same principle may cause that shot to also be impossible but as the documentary failed to test this and instead tried a 0 degree elevation shot at 400 yards, who knows.
Except that in the film, the shot is take from the ground and up to a 4th floor window. So probably an angle of 30 degrees or more. Now the same principle may cause that shot to also be impossible but as the documentary failed to test this and instead tried a 0 degree elevation shot at 400 yards, who knows.
Iggle Piggle said:
I remember years ago watching an episode of Myth Busters in which they wanted to see if a jet could take off on a conveyor belt. They proved it could but the experiment was seriously flawed in many ways as a jet can only take off if the air passing over and under the wing is sufficient enough to cause lift. Without lift, if the wheels just turn the jet will never take off as it is effectively not moving.
It doesn't matter how many times this gets explained someone always comes back with..."It won't take off cos it's not moving"
Argggggh.
cazzer said:
Iggle Piggle said:
I remember years ago watching an episode of Myth Busters in which they wanted to see if a jet could take off on a conveyor belt. They proved it could but the experiment was seriously flawed in many ways as a jet can only take off if the air passing over and under the wing is sufficient enough to cause lift. Without lift, if the wheels just turn the jet will never take off as it is effectively not moving.
It doesn't matter how many times this gets explained someone always comes back with..."It won't take off cos it's not moving"
Argggggh.
TEKNOPUG said:
The doc on Saving Private Ryan was flawed as well. They said that the shot could be done at 100 yards but not at 400yards due to the ballistic trajectory required, meaning that the bullet would be dropping at too steep an angle.
Except that in the film, the shot is take from the ground and up to a 4th floor window. So probably an angle of 30 degrees or more. Now the same principle may cause that shot to also be impossible but as the documentary failed to test this and instead tried a 0 degree elevation shot at 400 yards, who knows.
Yes but at least on the doc they did the 100 yard shot, on MB they couldnt manage it so said it was not possible.Except that in the film, the shot is take from the ground and up to a 4th floor window. So probably an angle of 30 degrees or more. Now the same principle may cause that shot to also be impossible but as the documentary failed to test this and instead tried a 0 degree elevation shot at 400 yards, who knows.
Also as for the plane, if there is no airflow over and under the wing how does it generate lift?
cazzer said:
Iggle Piggle said:
I remember years ago watching an episode of Myth Busters in which they wanted to see if a jet could take off on a conveyor belt. They proved it could but the experiment was seriously flawed in many ways as a jet can only take off if the air passing over and under the wing is sufficient enough to cause lift. Without lift, if the wheels just turn the jet will never take off as it is effectively not moving.
It doesn't matter how many times this gets explained someone always comes back with..."It won't take off cos it's not moving"
Argggggh.
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