Brace Yourselves! Solar Superstorm on the way.

Brace Yourselves! Solar Superstorm on the way.

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odyssey2200

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18,650 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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http://news.sky.com/story/1048727/solar-superstorm...

Spotted this in the news earlier.

How are we supposed to brace oursleves?
What should I hang on to?

and, aparently there is a 45km wide asteriod passing 17,000 miles away from earth soon.

We're all doomed I tell you!

Hoofy

76,585 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Seems like a good idea for a new tax.

odyssey2200

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211 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Hoofy said:
Seems like a good idea for a new tax.
I did think that atthe time but I was trying to think of a way that it could all me linked to C02 and MMuGW.
silly

I'm sure Al will find a way.

crmcatee

5,704 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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The latest useless ideas to throw our money at.


I've got the camera at the ready though smile

odyssey2200

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211 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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I was rather hoping that it might completely knock out the Galileo Sat system and kill any dreams of road pricing via GPS.




Hoofy

76,585 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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This is the price we pay for excessive coalition austerity measures.

grumbledoak

31,588 posts

235 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Junk said:
Scientists are concerned about what will happen if Ace fails.
What, we won't get our 15 minutes warning about something that we can do fk all about? Well that'll be a catastrophe.

Hoofy

76,585 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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I blame the previous Labour government. If they hadn't got rid of Blair, we wouldn't have this problem.

Hoofy

76,585 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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"Coronal Mass Ejection" is my chat up line.

Gargamel

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263 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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odyssey2200 said:
I was rather hoping that it might completely knock out the Galileo Sat system and kill any dreams of road pricing via GPS.
This will happen eventually, A space junk cascade will in time destroy all satellites. I really hope its the newly independant peoples republic of Scotland's Satellite that starts it off..... wink


Daxed

188 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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and, aparently there is a 45km wide asteriod passing 17,000 miles away from earth soon.


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m, not km

odyssey2200

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211 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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Daxed said:
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and, aparently there is a 45km wide asteriod passing 17,000 miles away from earth soon.
m, not km
yikes

can someone call Bruce, Quick!!

AshVX220

5,929 posts

192 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Will we be able to see this Asteroid with the naked eye (weather dependant)?

Tim330

1,136 posts

214 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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AshVX220 said:
Will we be able to see this Asteroid with the naked eye (weather dependant)?
At only 45m wide & 17,000miles I would say say no

Daxed

188 posts

197 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Only a pair of bins required though.

AshVX220

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192 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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Tim330 said:
At only 45m wide & 17,000miles I would say say no
We can see the sun reflecting off Satellites and they're much smaller and further away, no? Or are the ones we can see a lot closer due to their moving orbits?

Shame, would be good if there were some cool way to track and film it.

odyssey2200

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211 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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AshVX220 said:
Tim330 said:
At only 45m wide & 17,000miles I would say say no
We can see the sun reflecting off Satellites and they're much smaller and further away, no? Or are the ones we can see a lot closer due to their moving orbits?

Shame, would be good if there were some cool way to track and film it.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/tracking/index.html

ISS is at an altitude of 259 miles and is clearly visible with the naked eye, but is much smaller than the asteroid.

Would the mahooosive size of the asteroid compensate for the distance??

Over to the PH mathematicians...

Tim330

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214 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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odyssey2200 said:
AshVX220 said:
Tim330 said:
At only 45m wide & 17,000miles I would say say no
We can see the sun reflecting off Satellites and they're much smaller and further away, no? Or are the ones we can see a lot closer due to their moving orbits?

Shame, would be good if there were some cool way to track and film it.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/tracking/index.html

ISS is at an altitude of 259 miles and is clearly visible with the naked eye, but is much smaller than the asteroid.

Would the mahooosive size of the asteroid compensate for the distance??

Over to the PH mathematicians...
From Wikipedia
Length 72.8 m
Width 108.5 m
Height c. 20 m (c. 66 ft)

So a comparable size to the asteroid (asteroid size is in meters not miles) I would expect the ISS to have a higher reflectance as well due to all the metal/solar panels etc.


crmcatee

5,704 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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When is this big boy expected to pass ?

Tim330

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214 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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crmcatee said:
When is this big boy expected to pass ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_DA14

"It is now known that on February 15, 2013 at 19:25 Universal Time the asteroid will pass at a distance of 0.000228 AU (34,100 km; 21,200 mi) from the center-point of Earth,[3] with an uncertainty region of about 0.000001 AU (150 km; 93 mi).[3] (In other words, the asteroid will pass about 27,700 kilometers (17,200 mi) above Earth's surface."

Also interesting, would make a big bang

"If it were to impact Earth, it is estimated that it would enter the atmosphere at 12.7 km/s with the kinetic energy of 3.6 megatons of TNT,[4] and produce an air burst with the equivalent of 2.9 megatons of TNT[14] at an altitude of roughly 8.5 kilometers (28,000 ft).[14] The Tunguska event has been estimated at 3−20 megatons"