Free energy. I know its bull**** but ...

Free energy. I know its bull**** but ...

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Morningside

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24,111 posts

231 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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I know this is bullst, but I cannot see how the trick is done.

First I thought a massive induction loop, but the voltages and currents would be too dangerious.

Then I thought...perhaps there is a battery hiding under the blobs of glue, but they look too solid.

confused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoCBORXzOqU

Martyboy84

512 posts

155 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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mmmmmmmmmmmm

iamAlegend

173 posts

143 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Just a bit of electronic trickery, free energy isn't possible.


as a note, if somebody did invent free energy, they wouldn't be showing you how to do it on youtube.....

Defcon5

6,207 posts

193 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Is the battery inside the motor, and the metal contacts are where a switch should be - the metal is simply completing the circuit

Morningside

Original Poster:

24,111 posts

231 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Defcon5 said:
Is the battery inside the motor, and the metal contacts are where a switch should be - the metal is simply completing the circuit
I thought that, but then they connected the free energy module to a multimeter.

Mr Sparkle

1,921 posts

172 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Overhead power line near by? Might be inducing a current like they do with the florescent tubes?

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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The problem is the fact that ALL energy is "free"!

The sun does not charge us for bombarding our planet with radiation. All energy sources man has ever used have been free initally. The costs of course is leveraging that power.

Take a transistor radio outside and turn it on, you are using "free" energy their too, now try powering your car off it and see how far you get.

Everything we do, everywhere we go, anthing we interact with all has absolutely masses and masses of "free" energy, the issue is that physics prevents us for efficiently harvesting enough of this energy to provide any meaningful work. This is really due to the laws of Entropy in the Universe, which are broadly speaking one way process. You can easily see this youself:

Buy 2 tins of paint, say one green, one yellow. Now mix them together and you get twice as much blue paint. Now try seperating them back into green and blue again! Bit more difficult hey!

So, in physics it's a similar situation. Take electrical resistance, a very very efficient way of converting electrical energy into heat. Now heat a resistor and see how much electricity comes out of it. ("anti-resitors" (peltier effect devices)do of course exist, but they are hugely in-efficent because they are going against the flow so to speak, taking low grade heat and turning it into high grade electricity)

So, even if that video isn't a fake or simple misdirection, what exactly are we going to do with what would appear to be about 100mW of mechanical power, that requires a motor (50p) some copperwire (10p) and couple of crock clips (25p) (total of 85p) to get (thats £8.50 per Watt, or £8500/kW)

You can buy a 2.2kW honda generator for about £200 these days ;-)

Not entirely sure if this latest "revelation" is going to save the world................

AER

1,142 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Might be a nice trick to power some remote electronics that needs 5V and a couple of hundred picoamps.

Pints

18,444 posts

196 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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AER said:
Might be a nice trick to power some remote electronics that needs 5V and a couple of hundred picoamps.
Such as nano electronics (little spy bugs, etc.)

Dan Brown on my bookshelf? Moi?

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Max_Torque said:
Buy 2 tins of paint, say one green, one yellow. Now mix them together and you get twice as much blue paint
That would be an equal achievement to perpetual motion...

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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AER said:
Might be a nice trick to power some remote electronics that needs 5V and a couple of hundred picoamps.
What, like a digital watch? Good old Douglas Adams was right afterall!!



(Funny how the multimeter in that video measured 5.94Vdc, what with typical watch batteries being 2.8-3.0V.................)

hairykrishna

13,214 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Morningside said:
Then I thought...perhaps there is a battery hiding under the blobs of glue, but they look too solid.
No, I think this is it, it'd be the easiest way to do it

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I can't see the video as I'm at work. But if it's the one I'm thinking of it is indeed powered by two flat watch batteries taped up somewhere where you wouldn't expect them to fit.

rxtx

6,016 posts

212 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Max_Torque said:
Buy 2 tins of paint, say one green, one yellow. Now mix them together and you get twice as much blue paint. Now try seperating them back into green and blue again! Bit more difficult hey!
Blue and yellow make green but we know what you meant wink

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Morningside said:
I thought that, but then they connected the free energy module to a multimeter.
A couple of watch batteries in series with one of the multimeter probes, either in the probe itself or inside the multimeter would fix this. Not a difficult trick to do, but an utter waste of time nonetheless.

AER

1,142 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Max_Torque said:
What, like a digital watch? Good old Douglas Adams was right afterall!!



(Funny how the multimeter in that video measured 5.94Vdc, what with typical watch batteries being 2.8-3.0V.................)
Douglas Adams was right about many things!

5.94V was the open-circuit voltage. We didn't get to see what the voltage was under load. In fact, he should have brought all his toys with him out to the field so he could measure voltage and current to demonstrate how many mW was there.

GokTweed

3,799 posts

153 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Was the wire picking up radio waves flying around and using them?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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GokTweed said:
Was the wire picking up radio waves flying around and using them?
No. If you could pick up sufficient RF energy to power a motor from a coil this size, a portable radio wouldn't need batteries. Then there's the issue that any RF energy it did pick up would be AC, but it managed to power a DC motor and read 6 volts on the DC setting of a multimeter.

GokTweed

3,799 posts

153 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
GokTweed said:
Was the wire picking up radio waves flying around and using them?
No. If you could pick up sufficient RF energy to power a motor from a coil this size, a portable radio wouldn't need batteries. Then there's the issue that any RF energy it did pick up would be AC, but it managed to power a DC motor and read 6 volts on the DC setting of a multimeter.
so what was that bit of copper sticking up in the air for?

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Max_Torque said:
Buy 2 tins of paint, say one green, one yellow. Now mix them together and you get twice as much blue paint. Now try seperating them back into green and blue again! Bit more difficult hey!
wha?