Scientists. PAH!
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XJSsometimeSoon said:
Jetl3on said:
Painful reading, but I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".
Metro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".
EFAMetro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".
Really pisses me off when a species name is not in italics
Jetl3on said:
haha, I was expecting that. Dont get defensive, it was a tongue in cheek comment, im not dissing your importance and contribution to society, It would be great to see some consistency in your findings, you lot are always disproving and contradicting each other (yes I know, thats the route to discovery).
I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.
And whilst we are on the subject of "what did you do for us", alongside all the good you have done, you are also responsible for some equally nasty stuff, nothing to be proud of.
On the whole you are a necessary evil
Why are scientists "evil"?I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.
And whilst we are on the subject of "what did you do for us", alongside all the good you have done, you are also responsible for some equally nasty stuff, nothing to be proud of.
On the whole you are a necessary evil
Edited by Jetl3on on Tuesday 6th March 15:37
Ignorance and willingness to dismiss the work of sciience is far more "evil" to my mind.
Alex said:
XJSsometimeSoon said:
Jetl3on said:
Painful reading, but I do wonder if Scientists make up half the stuff they discover, safe in the knowledge that nobody can disprove their "facts".
Metro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".
EFAMetro:
"The mystery of evolution - we are descended from primitive eel-like creatures. The 2" Pikaia gracilens lived in the sea more than 500million years ago. But scientists from Cambridge and Toronto have confirmed it is the member of the Chordate family, to which humans belong, it used to swim like an eeel, skimming the sea floor".
Really pisses me off when a species name is not in italics
I am not usually this much of a pedant, however it really does boil my blood. Also they missed out who is authority (i.e who named the species) and did not put their initial at the end of the species name. Basics of any writing in biological sciences.
For example at the moment I am writing about Ginkgo biloba which was first formally described and given a taxonomic position by Carl Linnaeus. So in any article it should first read Ginkgo biloba L.
I cannot be arsed to look up the authority on Pikaia gracilens but it is very sloppy not to get it correct.
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As you were...
Jetl3on said:
haha, I was expecting that. Dont get defensive, it was a tongue in cheek comment, im not dissing your importance and contribution to society, It would be great to see some consistency in your findings, you lot are always disproving and contradicting each other (yes I know, thats the route to discovery).
I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.
And whilst we are on the subject of "what did you do for us", alongside all the good you have done, you are also responsible for some equally nasty stuff, nothing to be proud of.
On the whole you are a necessary evil
so much fail........ I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.
And whilst we are on the subject of "what did you do for us", alongside all the good you have done, you are also responsible for some equally nasty stuff, nothing to be proud of.
On the whole you are a necessary evil
Edited by Jetl3on on Tuesday 6th March 15:37
mybrainhurts said:
Eric Mc said:
Why are scientists "evil"?
Ignorance and willingness to dismiss the work of sciience is far more "evil" to my mind.
How do you view climate scientists, Eric..? Ignorance and willingness to dismiss the work of sciience is far more "evil" to my mind.
Science is a process, not a belief system.
Eric Mc said:
mybrainhurts said:
Eric Mc said:
Why are scientists "evil"?
Ignorance and willingness to dismiss the work of sciience is far more "evil" to my mind.
How do you view climate scientists, Eric..? Ignorance and willingness to dismiss the work of sciience is far more "evil" to my mind.
Eric Mc said:
Science is a process, not a belief system.
To them, it IS a belief system. They call it "The Cause".Do they?
Really?
Science is self correcting. If a theory turns out to be rubbish, that will emerge - eventually.
Scientists themselves are human and will have foibles and flaws like the rest of us. And consequently, if I don't like what one group might be saying, that is of no real relevance to me and doesn't affect my faith in the process of science.
I don't believe in scientists, I believe that it's the scientific process that is what is all important.
Really?
Science is self correcting. If a theory turns out to be rubbish, that will emerge - eventually.
Scientists themselves are human and will have foibles and flaws like the rest of us. And consequently, if I don't like what one group might be saying, that is of no real relevance to me and doesn't affect my faith in the process of science.
I don't believe in scientists, I believe that it's the scientific process that is what is all important.
Eric Mc said:
Jetl3on said:
haha, I was expecting that. Dont get defensive, it was a tongue in cheek comment, im not dissing your importance and contribution to society, It would be great to see some consistency in your findings, you lot are always disproving and contradicting each other (yes I know, thats the route to discovery).
I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.
And whilst we are on the subject of "what did you do for us", alongside all the good you have done, you are also responsible for some equally nasty stuff, nothing to be proud of.
On the whole you are a necessary evil
Why are scientists "evil"?I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.
And whilst we are on the subject of "what did you do for us", alongside all the good you have done, you are also responsible for some equally nasty stuff, nothing to be proud of.
On the whole you are a necessary evil
Edited by Jetl3on on Tuesday 6th March 15:37
Ignorance and willingness to dismiss the work of sciience is far more "evil" to my mind.
Jetl3on said:
I cannot argue the finer points and wont attempt to, but just because you found some infinitely minute common atom or organism between species, does not necessarily mean we `descended` from them. Its the descended part I dont like I guess, making it seem grander than it is.
"Descended from" as in evolved from, through a large number of generations the eel-like thing with a nascent backbone became a human, we are descended from them, what is "grand" or "not grand" about that?Edited by Jetl3on on Tuesday 6th March 15:37
mybrainhurts said:
Eric, wake up. This bunch has screwed the scientific process. Read the emails.
The Michael Mann/climategate emails you mean?all involved were cleared of any wrongdoing by the Inspector General of the National Science Foundation, an internal investigations by Penn State University, and an independent panel at University of East Anglia too.
http://live.psu.edu/story/47378
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/climate-c...
http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/CRUstate...
I can't pretend to know enough about climate change in general to put forward my own arguments about it, but is the climategate argument really still a valid one?
surely if climate change really isnt our own doing, there will be strength of evidence enough to disprove the currently accepted theory that it is, even if the other side really were screwing around.
Edited by deadtom on Tuesday 6th March 21:48
Calm down sir, if you want to debate, lets debate, but please refrain from using aggressive or insulting comments, its uncalled for. My comments were (and I repeat) 'tongue in cheek', but i have my opinions on the subject, which Im entitled to.
And yes, if it were not clear the first time, Im talking to you.
And yes, if it were not clear the first time, Im talking to you.
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