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loudlashadjuster

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185 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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AshVX220 said:
Thanks for the links. thumbup
Said no astronomer biggrin

AshVX220

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Friday 8th November 2019
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loudlashadjuster said:
Said no astronomer biggrin
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Beati Dogu

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140 months

Monday 11th November 2019
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Well the Starlink 1 mission is going well, will all 60 satellites deployed.

This was also the 75th Falcon 9 launch & 45th successful landing.

It was their heaviest payload too, as these satellites have been upgraded since the original batch. They have 4x the data capacity, support more phased array broadband beams & have an extra Ka band antennae. They're supposed to completely disintegrate on re-entry as well now.

Only the dual fairing pick up wasn't attempted due to sea conditions. The recovery ships went to a nearby North Carolina port for shelter. SpaceX will still try to fish out the fairings from the sea however.

FurtiveFreddy

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238 months

Monday 11th November 2019
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I've read somewhere that this batch of Starlink satellites have been made much less reflective than the previous batch to appease astronomers who complained after the first launch.

Not sure I should be frown or smile about that...

Beati Dogu

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Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Here's another, more graphical view of the two Starlink cluster orbits.

https://www2.flightclub.io/earth?tlesByLaunch=1961...


MartG

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205 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Dragon abort engine static fire test completed

https://www.space.com/spacex-crew-dragon-abort-sta...

Beati Dogu

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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Now for the in-flight abort test, probably in December.

They've lined up a booster that has already flow three times for this - B1046. This was the first of the Block 5's to fly and the first to complete 3 flights.



Meanwhile, the Falcon 9 booster from Monday's Starlink 1 flight arrived safely back at Port Canaveral yesterday.

Gandahar

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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Beati Dogu said:
Now for the in-flight abort test, probably in December.

They've lined up a booster that has already flow three times for this - B1046. This was the first of the Block 5's to fly and the first to complete 3 flights.



Meanwhile, the Falcon 9 booster from Monday's Starlink 1 flight arrived safely back at Port Canaveral yesterday.
They are doing it at Max Q aren't they? Good decision.


Looking at two recent abort tests one is perfectly filmed and one is not perfectly filmed

Boeing from White sands , got to be the worst ever abort flight filming ....

https://youtu.be/acOFK3Bsj58?t=126

Compare this to Lockheed Martin / Northrup Grumman Orion from the Cape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJgqhznBntE

bow

And White Sands has st loads of good cameras too, due to the military aspect... go figure.


To be honest both Space X and Boeing are crap with the replacement for Soyuz at $xm per pop so far. We know Soyuz abort works, it has already saved lives wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwnLFKfuBE

It's not sexy and old school, but works.


Let's hope they can both improve from thrusters blowing up and parachutes not deploying.





Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 16th November 11:52

MartG

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205 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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It seems Boeing's per seat price for Starliner is 60% higher than that for SpaceX - and higher than NASA has paid for Soyuz flights. They have also been paid extra above the contract price ( see article in link below ) which was already 40% higher than SpaceX received frown

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/11/nasa-repor...

Beati Dogu

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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Oops. Plus the Russians will very likely drop their seat price once they get some competition.

IIRC they were charging about $21 million a seat before the Shuttle went out of service.

Flooble

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101 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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Boeing seems to be creaming the cash in while it can, can't really blame them. I guess they realise that they need to sign up everything they can now (e.g the extra SLS orders) because they may soon be out of the business entirely.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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To be frank these days there are a lot fewer players in the rocket and space business than 50 or 60 years ago.


The modern version of Boeing also now includes - North American, McDonnell and Douglas. Back in the early 1960s, they are all separate companies and competing for business.

MartG

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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Another article on the same subject - though this one goes as far as saying Boeing were 'extorting' money from NASA

https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/b...

Eric Mc

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266 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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It does seem that at least SpaceX are gradually breaking up the rather restricted "market" that has existed for such a long time in the rocket business. There are, of course, some other newcomers on the block so hopefully a proper competitive situation is gradually emerging.

Beati Dogu

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Monday 18th November 2019
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Port Canaveral lifted the Falcon 9 off the landing ship with their new mobile crane for the first time today.

The crane's mast kinda looks like another Falcon 9, weirdly enough.



This operation was delayed over the weekend due to high winds. Fairing capture boats Ms.Tree and Ms.Chief are still in port in North Carolina due to the rough weather. Apparently Ms.Chief had her net torn partially off while actually in port.


Meanwhile, in Texas, Starship 1's bottom half is about to undergo tank pressurisation and propellant loading tests.



This will likely be with inert liquid nitrogen first, before moving on to more explody things.




RobDickinson

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255 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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st thats not good...


MartG

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Wednesday 20th November 2019
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RobDickinson said:
st thats not good...

st !

Can't find anything about it online ( yet ) - I assume the clip came from the livestream ?

RobDickinson

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Wednesday 20th November 2019
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yeah guess so, a learning experience...

MartG

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205 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Yup - just checked the livestream and scrolled back frown

Beati Dogu

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Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Well that's buggered then. There's never a dull moment with SpaceX.

Everyday Astronaut on twitter:

"Starship MK-1 appears to have blown its top off during a pressure test today. My guess... this will be a good time for @spacex to move onto their next, more refined and higher quality versions (MK-2/3) instead of reparing MK-1."


Elon Musk @elonmusk Replying to @Erdayastronaut and @SpaceX

"Absolutely, but to move to Mk3 design. This had some value as a manufacturing pathfinder, but flight design is quite different."

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/11972710...


The nose section was not attached at least. Maybe they were planning to test that separately anyway. Perhaps they can add it to the Mk 3, which they're building at Boca Chica.

Looks like the Mk 2 in Florida will be the first to test fire now.


EDIT : SpaceX say the decision had already been made not to fly this test article. In fact the first one they’ll attempt to fly to orbit will be the Mk 3.


Edited by Beati Dogu on Thursday 21st November 01:50

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