JWST launch delayed to 2019

JWST launch delayed to 2019

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anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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S100HP said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
rxe said:
Hands up - who is watching this in preference to the Queen’s speech?
Absolutely
Is that even a question?
I shall be excitedly and nervously watching.

LostM135idriver

657 posts

33 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Juanco20 said:
As someone who didn't pay enough attention during science lessons at school, please can someone clarify something for me.

This telescope will be taking images of galaxies and stars billions of light years away. So the image we actual see is what it was like billions of years ago. As we know, our own planet has changed dramatically in that time so how much use is it knowing what these galaxies and stars were like such a long time ago? They could be completely different now or even no longer exist.
The post right below yours is really good answer! I just wanted to add that the ‘trick’ here - the problem - is that when we are thinking about cosmological distances (because of the slow speed of light, at least compared to the distances involved) the word, or concept of ‘now’ just falls apart. It’s like talking about how fast a banana accelerates… it just doesn’t map. A really good, approachable, and readable, book on this is ‘The Order of Time’ by Carole Rovelli.

Juanco20

3,220 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Thank you for the answers. My brain has always had a tough time conceptualizing the vastness of space.

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

53 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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LostM135idriver said:
A really good, approachable, and readable, book on this is ‘The Order of Time’ by Carole Rovelli.
biggrin is he transitioning?

The talk he gave at the Royal Institution is a good watch too. Like him, I don’t believe time actually exists. It’s a human construct to measure change in a system.

https://youtu.be/-6rWqJhDv7M


Eric Mc

122,288 posts

267 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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LostM135idriver said:
The post right below yours is really good answer! I just wanted to add that the ‘trick’ here - the problem - is that when we are thinking about cosmological distances (because of the slow speed of light, at least compared to the distances involved) the word, or concept of ‘now’ just falls apart. It’s like talking about how fast a banana accelerates… it just doesn’t map. A really good, approachable, and readable, book on this is ‘The Order of Time’ by Carole Rovelli.
I paediatrician would not be much use if he had only ever studied 9 year olds. To understand the subject of child development you need to be able to look at children of all ages. The same goes for galaxies.

IAmTheWalrus

1,049 posts

46 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Wow I missed this thread. Do you think we can see it from the earth? It sounds pretty big..

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

53 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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IAmTheWalrus said:
Wow I missed this thread. Do you think we can see it from the earth? It sounds pretty big..
It’s roughly the size of a tennis court and nearly a million miles away.

ChocolateFrog

25,940 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Juanco20 said:
As someone who didn't pay enough attention during science lessons at school, please can someone clarify something for me.

This telescope will be taking images of galaxies and stars billions of light years away. So the image we actual see is what it was like billions of years ago. As we know, our own planet has changed dramatically in that time so how much use is it knowing what these galaxies and stars were like such a long time ago? They could be completely different now or even no longer exist.
Being able to look back to a time only a few hundred million years after the Big Bang will help scientists answer some fundamental questions.

Or so we're told.

I think they're hoping it was also be the first telescope to directly observe an exoplanet as well as detect whether it has oxygen and water in its atmosphere.

ChocolateFrog

25,940 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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BorkBorkBork said:
IAmTheWalrus said:
Wow I missed this thread. Do you think we can see it from the earth? It sounds pretty big..
It’s roughly the size of a tennis court and nearly a million miles away.
Definitely not, the ISS is barely visible and it's huge by comparison as well as a hell of a lot closer.

andy_s

19,424 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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BorkBorkBork said:
LostM135idriver said:
A really good, approachable, and readable, book on this is ‘The Order of Time’ by Carole Rovelli.
biggrin is he transitioning?

The talk he gave at the Royal Institution is a good watch too. Like him, I don’t believe time actually exists. It’s a human construct to measure change in a system.

https://youtu.be/-6rWqJhDv7M
He's a good author, readable - I particularly enjoyed 'Reality Is Not What It Seems'.

Eric Mc

122,288 posts

267 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Definitely not, the ISS is barely visible and it's huge by comparison as well as a hell of a lot closer.
The ISS is highly visible. It’s actually the brightest object in the sky after the sun and the moon.

ChocolateFrog

25,940 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Eric Mc said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Definitely not, the ISS is barely visible and it's huge by comparison as well as a hell of a lot closer.
The ISS is highly visible. It’s actually the brightest object in the sky after the sun and the moon.
OK, it's a tiny dot in the sky that you can see but 99 in a 100 wouldn't be able to tell you what it was.

GTO-3R

7,542 posts

215 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Here we go!!

NASA Space Flights feed has been really interesting to listen to. I’ve learned a lot about it smile

andy_s

19,424 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Phew - that's the 'easy' bit done...

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Great launch. Fingers crossed for the rest of the mission.

bitchstewie

52,104 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Apologies as I've been sort of keeping an eye on this but when does the opening start?

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

85 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Glad this was finally launched without any incident. Very questionable why it had to be christmas day.
I guess they can all relax now safe in the knowledge the double bubble plus day of in lieu is secure...

Mr E

21,779 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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andy_s said:
Phew - that's the 'easy' bit done...
I always feel for the launch engineers. It’s lit and if everything goes well nobody cares you did a first class job. If it goes badly you’re in a world of st.

I think they can have a very good afternoon, that looked textbook.

swanny71

2,865 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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I was nervous, Christ knows how the JWST teams felt.
Fingers crossed all goes well, still boggles my mind how they get so many things right and the consequences of the smallest of things going wrong.

andy_s

19,424 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Mr E said:
andy_s said:
Phew - that's the 'easy' bit done...
I always feel for the launch engineers. It’s lit and if everything goes well nobody cares you did a first class job. If it goes badly you’re in a world of st.

I think they can have a very good afternoon, that looked textbook.
yes

Great coverage from NASA.