SpaceX Tuesday...

[CraigyMc]

Einion Yrth said:

Beati Dogu said:

Meanwhile, Elon is now the richest person in the world after a 4.8% rise in Tesla's share price.

That's going to hack Bezos off.

If Starship is successful before New Glenn, that will hack Bezos off. I think it'll happen. Any takers?

[marksx]

Einion Yrth said:

That's going to hack Bezos off.

Aye he'll be well miffed being no 2 of 7bn on the rich list.

[Flooble]

CraigyMc said:

Einion Yrth said:

Beati Dogu said:

Meanwhile, Elon is now the richest person in the world after a 4.8% rise in Tesla's share price.

That's going to hack Bezos off.

If Starship is successful before New Glenn, that will hack Bezos off. I think it'll happen. Any takers?

Isn't New Glenn's payload capacity only about halfway between a Falcon and Falcon Heavy? Feels like he lost that competition a long while ago.

[CraigyMc]

Flooble said:

CraigyMc said:

Einion Yrth said:

Beati Dogu said:

Meanwhile, Elon is now the richest person in the world after a 4.8% rise in Tesla's share price.

That's going to hack Bezos off.

If Starship is successful before New Glenn, that will hack Bezos off. I think it'll happen. Any takers?

Isn't New Glenn's payload capacity only about halfway between a Falcon and Falcon Heavy? Feels like he lost that competition a long while ago.

Reusable to GTO, new glenn is 13 tons. Falcon heavy reusable is about 8 or 10. You would have to build a "disposable" falcon heavy to get to the GTO performance of a New Glenn.

For low earth orbit it's a bit more of a mixed bag. New Glenn is 45 tons to LEO, Falcon heavy is 30/57/64 depending on how much of the rocket comes home, full reuse is 30 tons compared to new Glenn.

I don't know if Blue Origin plan any disposable New Glenn missions at all, so we might not see what it's "no coming back down" numbers look like, but I think they would comfortably outperform all the falcon heavy modes.

There isn't a public Blue Origin competitor for the SLS or Starship yet (both of which are >100 tons to LEO in all public forms) but I'd be totally shocked if they aren't already elbows-deep in designs for a bigger rocket than new glenn.

[Einion Yrth]

CraigyMc said:

Flooble said:

CraigyMc said:

Einion Yrth said:

Beati Dogu said:

Meanwhile, Elon is now the richest person in the world after a 4.8% rise in Tesla's share price.

That's going to hack Bezos off.

If Starship is successful before New Glenn, that will hack Bezos off. I think it'll happen. Any takers?

Isn't New Glenn's payload capacity only about halfway between a Falcon and Falcon Heavy? Feels like he lost that competition a long while ago.

Reusable to GTO, new glenn is 13 tons. Falcon heavy reusable is about 8 or 10. You would have to build a "disposable" falcon heavy to get to the GTO performance of a New Glenn.

For low earth orbit it's a bit more of a mixed bag. New Glenn is 45 tons to LEO, Falcon heavy is 30/57/64 depending on how much of the rocket comes home, full reuse is 30 tons compared to new Glenn.

I don't know if Blue Origin plan any disposable New Glenn missions at all, so we might not see what it's "no coming back down" numbers look like, but I think they would comfortably outperform all the falcon heavy modes.

There isn't a public Blue Origin competitor for the SLS or Starship yet (both of which are >100 tons to LEO in all public forms) but I'd be totally shocked if they aren't already elbows-deep in designs for a bigger rocket than new glenn.

At some point however they are going to have to fly something other than that dildo/roll on deodorant that they are currently playing with, and at current rates I'd expect an orbital starship/superheavy even before new Glenn.

[Flooble]

Ah, my mistake - I had just done a quick google and got the 45 and 63 tonne figures. Didn't allow for reuse or not.

It probably won't hurt to have a selection of rockets for different payload sizes, assuming the cost is directly proportional to payload.

Although if Starship works then I suspect there won't be any reason to use anything else - 100 tonnes for the price of 10!

I see they have carted off the remains of the previous Starship - no attachment to old kit or keeping pieces for a museum at SpaceX. I wonder if they plan to melt it all down and reuse it - can you even do that?

[CraigyMc]

Flooble said:

no attachment to old kit or keeping pieces for a museum at SpaceX. I wonder if they plan to melt it all down and reuse it - can you even do that?

They do keep some things.

The front of SpaceX in Hawthorne:



But yes, I bet much of SN8 is now scrap.

[CraigyMc]

CraigyMc said:

There isn't a public Blue Origin competitor for the SLS or Starship yet (both of which are >100 tons to LEO in all public forms) but I'd be totally shocked if they aren't already elbows-deep in designs for a bigger rocket than new glenn.

Odd for me to quote my own post, but I've just read that the thing that comes after New Glenn is called New Armstrong and is indeed Starship-sized.

[hyphen]

Einion Yrth said:

That's going to hack Bezos off.

Not comparable, Bezos had an expensive divorce.

[Beati Dogu]

Elon has had about 3 of those. (two to the same woman)

His first wife, Canadian author Justine is shown in this CNN profile of Elon back in '99, when he was getting his first supercar delivered (a Mclaren F1).

https://youtu.be/s9mczdODqzo

Back then he was just a multi-millionaire.

He wrecked this car spectacularly the next year with fellow PayPal founder Peter Thiel onboard. Here's how he tells what happened:

https://youtu.be/mOI8GWoMF4M

"watch this!"

[MartG]

First F9 mission of the year with Turksat 5A went off well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0UYXVqIn8

[Dark85]

Beati Dogu said:

Elon has had about 3 of those. (two to the same woman)

His first wife, Canadian author Justine is shown in this CNN profile of Elon back in '99, when he was getting his first supercar delivered (a Mclaren F1).

https://youtu.be/s9mczdODqzo

Back then he was just a multi-millionaire.

Justine: "My fear is that we become spoiled brats. That we lose a sense of appreciation and perspective"

Yeah...

[CraigyMc]

Dark85 said:

Beati Dogu said:

Elon has had about 3 of those. (two to the same woman)

His first wife, Canadian author Justine is shown in this CNN profile of Elon back in '99, when he was getting his first supercar delivered (a Mclaren F1).

https://youtu.be/s9mczdODqzo

Back then he was just a multi-millionaire.

Justine: "My fear is that we become spoiled brats. That we lose a sense of appreciation and perspective"

Yeah...

He's not a spoiled brat, sitting in his tesla, in his private tunnel, on his way to his rocket factory, to meet his rockstar girlfriend, on the day he became the richest man in the world.

I'm not jealous*



*may be bullst

[Beati Dogu]

Poor Elon:



Tesla has now overtaken Faecesbook to become the fifth most valuable US company.

Only Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Alphabet (Google) are ahead of them.

Edited by Beati Dogu on Friday 8th January 16:02

[annodomini2]

annodomini2 said:

Flight window opens Friday supposedly

Reports now indicate, 2nd static fire today, launch next week due to poor weather

[Beati Dogu]

The cargo Dragon capsule is due to return to Earth on Monday 11th.

The plan is to splashdown in the Atlantic, off the east coast of Florida. However, they’ve sent a recovery ship round to the west coast (Tampa) to cover the Gulf of Mexico, just in case.

Splashdown is expected at around 9am local, 2 pm UK time.

[annodomini2]

annodomini2 said:

annodomini2 said:

Flight window opens Friday supposedly

Reports now indicate, 2nd static fire today, launch next week due to poor weather

Reports now indicate first launch window is the 14th.

[Flooble]

Static Fire Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday? Then review the results and go for launch Thursday?

[eharding]

Anyone else who signed up for the Starlink beta a few months ago been invited to complete the survey questions? - I signed up a few months ago, the survey invitation arrived yesterday - no idea if this is just a random thing or they're starting to consider a roll-out in the UK.

[CraigyMc]

eharding said:

Anyone else who signed up for the Starlink beta a few months ago been invited to complete the survey questions? - I signed up a few months ago, the survey invitation arrived yesterday - no idea if this is just a random thing or they're starting to consider a roll-out in the UK.

I've not had an email.

I thought some people had already got their dishes?