Breaker bar knuckle

Breaker bar knuckle

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mudster

786 posts

246 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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smartphone hater said:
mudster said:
I've got a 1/2" Halfords professional breaker bar. I've had a 4ft piece of scaffolding pole on the end to undo a hub nut (and only just managed to get enough force). No signs of it giving up yet.
Your scaffold pole wasn't long enough smile I broke one with a ten foot pole once, bought a 3/4 drive one after that which is pretty indestructible.
I feel inadequate now! I need a bigger pole. biggrin

Krikkit

26,677 posts

183 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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smartphone hater said:
mudster said:
I've got a 1/2" Halfords professional breaker bar. I've had a 4ft piece of scaffolding pole on the end to undo a hub nut (and only just managed to get enough force). No signs of it giving up yet.
Your scaffold pole wasn't long enough smile I broke one with a ten foot pole once, bought a 3/4 drive one after that which is pretty indestructible.
I was just about to suggest the same! I got sick of struggling with hub nuts etc and messing about with poles so I bought a cheap eBay 3/4" 1m bar, came with a replacement knuckle and a 1/2" adapter (knuckle and adapter are both impact-steel too) and a shorter 1/2" bar as well and both have been great. The BFB (Big ...something Bar) has bit of flex in the shaft so you aren't likely to break it, and it's been rock solid since, not found anything it won't undo...

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

245 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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If you are repeatedly breaking tools then common sense should tell you to buy something stronger - as in trade up to 1/2 or 3/4".

Or buy a Snap-on 3/8", then take the broken ones back every week in exchange for new ones to break doing jobs they shouldn't be doing....

rolleyes

arfur daley

834 posts

168 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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spinWho the funk uses 3/8 for wheel nuts??????????????

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

163 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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bertieg said:
one eyed mick said:
Just keep using 3/8 drive mate you will change when you either bust some knuckles or teeth by not using commonsense
if you'd read the thread, you'd realise i cant keep using 3/8 drive.....
Thats why I said keep using 3/8 but you havent really learnt any thing from here once the knuckles or teeth become involve the learning curve is not so steep

wildoliver

8,840 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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bertieg said:
wildoliver said:
I can't imagine why anyone would think 3/8ths was the best choice for any heavy work like a wheel bolt???

I wouldn't even use it on a Mini/Midget wheel nut which are very thin shanks and low torque.

use 1/2" for goodness sake. Next thing you'll be asking why your 1/4" drive rachet keeps breaking doing up crank bolts.
because undoing wheel bolts isn't heavy use? as said, a 3/8 drive should easily be able to withstand forces in excess of 100nm, so i cant see why it would struggle with a wheel bolt
This is just classic, come on own up who's trolling.

It obviously can't withstand it that's why it keeps breaking.

The irony here is that a 1/2 Drive breaker bar is easier to get in the required length to take a wheel nut off, no more expensive and assuming you have no sockets or extensions at absolute worse is going to require you to either buy one long impact socket or a short socket and short extension.

Or you could keep buying 3/8ths drive breaker bars till you end up breaking another 3 or 4 or smack yourself in the teeth/fall over/smack the car or other amusing expensive accident finally convinces you that actually everyone else in the world was right after all and you were infact the only person who thought it was a good idea.

bertieg

Original Poster:

603 posts

143 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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wildoliver said:
This is just classic, come on own up who's trolling.

It obviously can't withstand it that's why it keeps breaking.

The irony here is that a 1/2 Drive breaker bar is easier to get in the required length to take a wheel nut off, no more expensive and assuming you have no sockets or extensions at absolute worse is going to require you to either buy one long impact socket or a short socket and short extension.

Or you could keep buying 3/8ths drive breaker bars till you end up breaking another 3 or 4 or smack yourself in the teeth/fall over/smack the car or other amusing expensive accident finally convinces you that actually everyone else in the world was right after all and you were infact the only person who thought it was a good idea.
the point is, 3/8 should be able to take it. i have used many 3/8 torque wrenches rated up to and beyond 100nm. (admittedly normally snap-on or similar top end tooling)

i have a 1/2 breaker bar too, but i prefer to use 3/8 on smaller stuff. the simple question was if anyone can recommend anything, short of snap on, that isn't rubbish.

Krikkit

26,677 posts

183 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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bertieg said:
the point is, 3/8 should be able to take it. i have used many 3/8 torque wrenches rated up to and beyond 100nm. (admittedly normally snap-on or similar top end tooling)

i have a 1/2 breaker bar too, but i prefer to use 3/8 on smaller stuff. the simple question was if anyone can recommend anything, short of snap on, that isn't rubbish.
Point is that a breaker bar isn't a torque wrench - the bar obviously can't take it whereas the mechanism inside a torque wrench can.

If you have a half inch bar get it out to do wheel nuts, keep it next to your 3/8 bar so you don't have to go looking for it. tongue out

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

189 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Out of interest... how do you know the wheel bolts were at 100Nm if you'd done them up using the same bar?


bertieg

Original Poster:

603 posts

143 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Krikkit said:
Point is that a breaker bar isn't a torque wrench - the bar obviously can't take it whereas the mechanism inside a torque wrench can.

If you have a half inch bar get it out to do wheel nuts, keep it next to your 3/8 bar so you don't have to go looking for it. tongue out
its nothing to do with the mechanism or the bar, they would both have the same inherent weak spot, as they both have a 3/8 drive on the end.

bertieg

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603 posts

143 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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InertialTooth45 said:
Out of interest... how do you know the wheel bolts were at 100Nm if you'd done them up using the same bar?
its a fair point. they weren't precisely 100nm, but a few years experience tells me they were in that ball park. the 100nm figure was just used as a rough figure for how tight a wheel nut should be

Tampon

4,637 posts

227 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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No one seems to be helping the OP so I will.

This won't break doing small jobs like your wheel nuts buddy.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000Y8Q7TG/ref=...

rambo19

2,753 posts

139 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Halfords pro range is good.

G600

1,479 posts

189 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Tampon said:
No one seems to be helping the OP so I will.

This won't break doing small jobs like your wheel nuts buddy.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000Y8Q7TG/ref=...
confused they've said the same as you, get a 1/2 inch drive.


Al Murphy

291 posts

161 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Another vote for a Halfords Professional bars. I've used and abused a 1/2 inch one for years now and it's held up strong despite being used for things it probably shouldn't have been!

Al

Tampon

4,637 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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G600 said:
confused they've said the same as you, get a 1/2 inch drive.
hehe

G600

1,479 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Tampon said:
hehe
I've won a parrot here haven't I

Tampon

4,637 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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G600 said:
I've won a parrot here haven't I
A 3/8ths parrot, but no refunds when it breaks OK?

G600

1,479 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Tampon said:
A 3/8ths parrot, but no refunds when it breaks OK?
A good 3/8ths parrot should easily handle that much sarcasm though.

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

163 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Keep using 3/8 drive and the parrot will bend it's beak!!!