Oil change pump @ Lidl
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was8v said:
Hmm this is my dipstick tube:
Does it poke out the bottom a bit? are those holes in the tube near the bottom?
Suppose I could just crack on and see how much oil comes out knowing how much has drained on previous changes.
No, that is a dipstick tube with a dipstick still in it.Does it poke out the bottom a bit? are those holes in the tube near the bottom?
Suppose I could just crack on and see how much oil comes out knowing how much has drained on previous changes.
You dipstick
An alternative to the electric pump being discussed is this drill pump: -
You just fit it into the chuck of a battery drill. It's more portable than a pump needing a 12V battery connection.
I've only ever used one to remove trapped water from void spaces in lifeboat bilges but it should be good, perhaps better for oil.
They work well when new but can be easily damaged by misuse. This could be, running it too fast causing overheating or allowing some solid debris to be sucked through. Either action damages the seal made between the pump vanes and casing.
You just fit it into the chuck of a battery drill. It's more portable than a pump needing a 12V battery connection.
I've only ever used one to remove trapped water from void spaces in lifeboat bilges but it should be good, perhaps better for oil.
They work well when new but can be easily damaged by misuse. This could be, running it too fast causing overheating or allowing some solid debris to be sucked through. Either action damages the seal made between the pump vanes and casing.
My Jag has a tube in the oil filler than goes right to the bottom of the sump, the car is designed to have its oil sucked out , quick, easy and clean job
If you drain the oil via the sump plug and then remove the sump you will no doubt find lot of debris still there so its an illusion to think you get more of the detritus out using the drain plug, either way the oil strainer doesnt sit on the bottom of the sump so doesnt suck it up anyhow
If you drain the oil via the sump plug and then remove the sump you will no doubt find lot of debris still there so its an illusion to think you get more of the detritus out using the drain plug, either way the oil strainer doesnt sit on the bottom of the sump so doesnt suck it up anyhow
liner33 said:
If you drain the oil via the sump plug and then remove the sump you will no doubt find lot of debris still there so its an illusion to think you get more of the detritus out using the drain plug,
Correct.liner33 said:
either way the oil strainer doesnt sit on the bottom of the sump so doesnt suck it up anyhow
Incorrect (engine dependent). I took the sump plug out of one the other day and the pick up strainer was almost sat on the sump pan base, I could stick my finger in and touch it easily.
227bhp said:
liner33 said:
If you drain the oil via the sump plug and then remove the sump you will no doubt find lot of debris still there so its an illusion to think you get more of the detritus out using the drain plug,
Correct.liner33 said:
either way the oil strainer doesnt sit on the bottom of the sump so doesnt suck it up anyhow
Incorrect (engine dependent). I took the sump plug out of one the other day and the pick up strainer was almost sat on the sump pan base, I could stick my finger in and touch it easily.
liner33 said:
227bhp said:
liner33 said:
If you drain the oil via the sump plug and then remove the sump you will no doubt find lot of debris still there so its an illusion to think you get more of the detritus out using the drain plug,
Correct.liner33 said:
either way the oil strainer doesnt sit on the bottom of the sump so doesnt suck it up anyhow
Incorrect (engine dependent). I took the sump plug out of one the other day and the pick up strainer was almost sat on the sump pan base, I could stick my finger in and touch it easily.
JoeBolt said:
An alternative to the electric pump being discussed is this drill pump: -
You just fit it into the chuck of a battery drill. It's more portable than a pump needing a 12V battery connection.
I've only ever used one to remove trapped water from void spaces in lifeboat bilges but it should be good, perhaps better for oil.
They work well when new but can be easily damaged by misuse. This could be, running it too fast causing overheating or allowing some solid debris to be sucked through. Either action damages the seal made between the pump vanes and casing.
Are they rated for pumping hot engine oil? The one I had used some kind of rubber or flexible polymer rotor rather than sliding vanes, and wasn't very good at priming itself.You just fit it into the chuck of a battery drill. It's more portable than a pump needing a 12V battery connection.
I've only ever used one to remove trapped water from void spaces in lifeboat bilges but it should be good, perhaps better for oil.
They work well when new but can be easily damaged by misuse. This could be, running it too fast causing overheating or allowing some solid debris to be sucked through. Either action damages the seal made between the pump vanes and casing.
StuTheGrouch said:
Well, I bought an oil pump from Lidl and just tried it out. It managed to pump about half a litre out of the sump before suction stopped. What a pile of f
king st!
I wouldn’t sully the insides of one of my cars engines with such useless crap to start with but well done for trying king st!Could be useful run in reverse for doing gearbox and diff oil changes.
As for particles I've a mate who has an engine which every oil filter for the past 15k miles has shown up tiny metal alu filings. Runs fine no bad noises etc. Something must be wearing out but I guess time will tell!
As for particles I've a mate who has an engine which every oil filter for the past 15k miles has shown up tiny metal alu filings. Runs fine no bad noises etc. Something must be wearing out but I guess time will tell!
Blaster72 said:
StuTheGrouch said:
Well, I bought an oil pump from Lidl and just tried it out. It managed to pump about half a litre out of the sump before suction stopped. What a pile of fking st!
Did you warm up the oil first? It’s been a cold day and the oil will be pretty thick if you didn’t.king st!StuTheGrouch said:
Blaster72 said:
StuTheGrouch said:
Well, I bought an oil pump from Lidl and just tried it out. It managed to pump about half a litre out of the sump before suction stopped. What a pile of fking st!
Did you warm up the oil first? It’s been a cold day and the oil will be pretty thick if you didn’t.king st!Evanivitch said:
StuTheGrouch said:
Blaster72 said:
StuTheGrouch said:
Well, I bought an oil pump from Lidl and just tried it out. It managed to pump about half a litre out of the sump before suction stopped. What a pile of fking st!
Did you warm up the oil first? It’s been a cold day and the oil will be pretty thick if you didn’t.king st!StuTheGrouch said:
Well, I bought an oil pump from Lidl and just tried it out. It managed to pump about half a litre out of the sump before suction stopped. What a pile of fking st!
May I just remind you all what I said in post 4.king st!"Surely these should be called a "Partial Oil Change Pump".
Paul G
finishing touch said:
StuTheGrouch said:
Well, I bought an oil pump from Lidl and just tried it out. It managed to pump about half a litre out of the sump before suction stopped. What a pile of fking st!
May I just remind you all what I said in post 4.king st!"Surely these should be called a "Partial Oil Change Pump".
Paul G
If it doesn't work, send it back to Lidl. You're well within your rights to do it.
V6Pushfit said:
Now you’re talking! Just ordered one - its ideal for pulling fresh petrol through after draining stale stuff. Still wouldn’t use it for oil though.
What would your solution be for changing the oil on a engine without a sump plug? An actual solution, not some fascile comment about not buying one in the first place.Gassing Station | Home Mechanics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff