Vibration above 70

Vibration above 70

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joe1145

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198 posts

123 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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sunbeam alpine said:
You may be able to check for sticky brakes - feel the wheels after you've driven - if one side is noticeably hotter than the other.
I have tried this but one wheel never seems any hotter, however this is usually after driving at lower speeds. I think i need to find a stretch of road that I can do 70 on and pull over from that speed and then check the temperatures.

joe1145

Original Poster:

198 posts

123 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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Ok so update to this. I have now stopped from 70+ into a layby on a dual carriageway and neither brake was obviously hotter than the other, neither seemed to be overly hot.

This does seem like a balancing issue as its worst around 80, above that it starts to disappear, and below 60 its gone completely.

However, I've never had an out of balance wheel cause shaking when braking, when driving along it is like an imbalance, but when braking the shaking is so much worse.

I'll see if I can borrow some wheels off someone and see if this makes a difference

sunbeam alpine

6,964 posts

190 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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joe1145 said:
Ok so update to this. I have now stopped from 70+ into a layby on a dual carriageway and neither brake was obviously hotter than the other, neither seemed to be overly hot.

This does seem like a balancing issue as its worst around 80, above that it starts to disappear, and below 60 its gone completely.

However, I've never had an out of balance wheel cause shaking when braking, when driving along it is like an imbalance, but when braking the shaking is so much worse.

I'll see if I can borrow some wheels off someone and see if this makes a difference
Could it be a damaged/warped brake disc?

joe1145

Original Poster:

198 posts

123 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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I've considered this, perhaps its catching the brake hence the vibration at higher speeds, however i'd expect the brake to heat up. I managed to practically coast from 70 to 0 and I could touch both brake disks with my hand, neither were hot.

E-bmw

9,326 posts

154 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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100% this is tyre/wheel related.

If you haven't got anything suitable find someone who has, you either need to swap wheels until you find which it is or spin them up on a balancer while watching the tyre/rim & you will find the issue.

You have been told this several times already, until you do this you WILL have the issue.


Auntieroll

543 posts

186 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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Sounds like the carcass and the tread of one or both tyres has become delaminated .

Had similar symptoms years ago , totally flummoxed for a while , only found it when wheel balance was checked at another garage using an on car (Repco IIRC ) wheel balancer.

The modern wheel balancers don't spin fast enough to cause the bulge , perhaps if you can't find a garage using/with an old Repco or similar you could jack up the rear and spin the front tyres to speed up that way ?
HTH

loggo

427 posts

114 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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If I recall correctly don't out of balance wheels cause of vibration around 40 as well as 70?

RSTurboPaul

10,562 posts

260 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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loggo said:
If I recall correctly don't out of balance wheels cause of vibration around 40 as well as 70?
The speed where vibration present itself would surely be entirely dependent on the amount the wheel was out of balance?

ninepoint2

3,336 posts

162 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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Damaged/Buckled wheel/s

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joe1145

Original Poster:

198 posts

123 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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Im sure this is some kind of balance issue as it comes around 65-80 then goes, even if brakes were warped and touching the pad there would be some heat, only other thing perhaps the brake disk is out of balance but that seems highly unlikely to me.

The front tyres are quite worn on the inside so I can justify replacing them