Superglued clutch plate to cover, won’t disengage

Superglued clutch plate to cover, won’t disengage

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steve_bmw

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Sunday 13th December 2020
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Done a clutch on a mates Clio, 1.2. Job was fine no problems, clutch has good travel ect.

I know the small spots of superglue to align the clutch has been used for ages, but I think we put too much on, still only 3 spots but with a wiggle of the plate to centralise the contact patches may be as big as a 50p maybe more.

We used gorilla superglue, have we fked up and put too much on and the clutch plate is stuck solid to the clutch cover?

I have never used superglue method before so I don’t know how much too much is.

Taking it back out tomorrow 😀

steve_bmw

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Sunday 13th December 2020
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normalbloke said:
Is this for real?
Yer, lol. As you can’t get the alignment tool in, the superglue holds the plate central to the clutch cover. Been done loads before it’s not a new thing, I’m just wondering if I used too much glue, I thought that the engine would have enough power to split the bond but I’m thinking the shear strength is too much.

steve_bmw

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Sunday 13th December 2020
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Whatsmyname said:
Before you take it apart try clutch down foot on brake and crank it over.
Tried it, it’s solid, I think we put too much glue on.

steve_bmw

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catman said:
I've never heard of that, has to be a wind up, surely? on the offchance, tried starting the car in gear with the clutch down yet?
No, not wind up, been done for years, I think 2 tiny spots was all was needed, I didn’t think the glue would be that good,

steve_bmw

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Sunday 13th December 2020
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t400ble said:
Tiny tiny drop
It's only to hold it in place while you line it up
That’s what I’m thinking, tiny would be a couple of mm spot at the most.

steve_bmw

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Sunday 13th December 2020
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Yazza54 said:
Great advert for gorilla glue though
Lol. Yer it’s good stuff. I’ll take it out tomorrow and see if I can make a tool to align it.

I’ve always used the tool but as there is not much space I thought I’d give the superglue trick a go. It did the trick, splines were perfect.

steve_bmw

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Sunday 13th December 2020
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InitialDave said:
This is a somewhat dodgy suggestion, and certainly not any kind of approved process, but could more of a shock loading crack it off? So run the car in gear with the front end up on stands so the wheels are turning, and then with the clutch pedal down, hit the brakes hard, and hopefully it'll shear the glue joint before it stalls the engine?
Good idea mate, we have tried similar technique driving it and braking and no it’s stuck solid.

I think there is too much Cush from the clutch and not enough power from the engine to break the bond.

We fked up.

steve_bmw

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Monday 14th December 2020
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tapkaJohnD said:
Steve-BMW, some Clio have a Dual Mass Flywheel.
If your mate's does, then any of the 'shocking' methods above will damage that, too.

John
It’s a solid flywheel. It will be coming out in a bit so I’ll update

Thanks everyone.

steve_bmw

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Monday 14th December 2020
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tapkaJohnD said:
Steve-BMW, some Clio have a Dual Mass Flywheel.
If your mate's does, then any of the 'shocking' methods above will damage that, too.

John
It’s a solid flywheel. It will be coming out in a bit so I’ll update

Thanks everyone.

steve_bmw

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Monday 14th December 2020
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Penelope Stopit said:
Clutch superglue mess up

Hello all, just done a clutch for a family member on his 02 plate clio 1.2 16v. Got told about the superglue trick to change the clutch without a full gearbox removal. Only trouble is now I can't get any gears so seems that the clutch is not disengaging. I did notice that the new release bearing was slightly tight so not sure which of these two is the fault anyone got an idea. Really don't fancy removing the box again.



Well after giving up and deciding to take it to a garage to get it checked, it goes and fixes it's self. Drove it a few miles and suddenly the clutch freed off. Note to self don't use too much £1 shop superglue on clutches lol
Lol. Sounds like it

steve_bmw

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Monday 14th December 2020
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Penelope Stopit said:
Clutch superglue mess up

Hello all, just done a clutch for a family member on his 02 plate clio 1.2 16v. Got told about the superglue trick to change the clutch without a full gearbox removal. Only trouble is now I can't get any gears so seems that the clutch is not disengaging. I did notice that the new release bearing was slightly tight so not sure which of these two is the fault anyone got an idea. Really don't fancy removing the box again.



Well after giving up and deciding to take it to a garage to get it checked, it goes and fixes it's self. Drove it a few miles and suddenly the clutch freed off. Note to self don't use too much £1 shop superglue on clutches lol
Lol. Sounds like it

steve_bmw

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Monday 14th December 2020
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All sorted, took the clutch out and it was stuck solid to the cover.

It was gorilla superglue, and I thought we put too much on by a long way but the contact patch was 5p size.

Unbelievable, that is some super glue lol. I would never have guessed that such little glue was that strong.

Live and learn, had fun along the way, no harm done.