Shafted by the EU vans and trailers now need an O licence
Discussion
For the last 20 years I've run my own light haulage business using a pickup truck
For 15 of those years I've been towing a trailer, it's a 3.5t iveco daily pulling a 3.5t trailer
I've just found out I've got until June to get an operators licence
I'm luckier than most because I did my CPC 15 years ago , when I say luckier I mean it may be viable for me to carry on
Those that don't have a CPC will need to employ a competent person as transport manager for 8 hours per week per vehicle
With diesel at £1.46 a litre , margins getting tighter and now this I can see a lot giving up
Anybody know if I need to do the driver CPC now, I was told last year it didn't apply to 3.5t vehicles towing trailers but they've moved the goalposts since then
Also I can't see whether I need a speed limiter or not as when I'm not towing I dont need to use the tachograph so limiting it doesn't seem right
For 15 of those years I've been towing a trailer, it's a 3.5t iveco daily pulling a 3.5t trailer
I've just found out I've got until June to get an operators licence
I'm luckier than most because I did my CPC 15 years ago , when I say luckier I mean it may be viable for me to carry on
Those that don't have a CPC will need to employ a competent person as transport manager for 8 hours per week per vehicle
With diesel at £1.46 a litre , margins getting tighter and now this I can see a lot giving up
Anybody know if I need to do the driver CPC now, I was told last year it didn't apply to 3.5t vehicles towing trailers but they've moved the goalposts since then
Also I can't see whether I need a speed limiter or not as when I'm not towing I dont need to use the tachograph so limiting it doesn't seem right
It's a tax by another name, last week I didn't have to give them anything, this week it's £250 to apply £391 for the licence, if you haven't got a CPC you need to employ someone who has for 8 hours a week, what the hell will they do for 8 hours a week with a transit van and a trailer, paint it
R0G said:
wack said:
For the last 20 years I've run my own light haulage business using a pickup truck
For 15 of those years I've been towing a trailer, it's a 3.5t iveco daily pulling a 3.5t trailer
I've just found out I've got until June to get an operators licence
Pity you cannot use a dual purpose vehicle and trailer as that would have got you out of the O licenceFor 15 of those years I've been towing a trailer, it's a 3.5t iveco daily pulling a 3.5t trailer
I've just found out I've got until June to get an operators licence
How come you can wait until June?
wack said:
Anybody know if I need to do the driver CPC now, I was told last year it didn't apply to 3.5t vehicles towing trailers but they've moved the goalposts since then
Only need that if the towing vehicle is plated at more than 3500 kgs GVWwack said:
Also I can't see whether I need a speed limiter or not as when I'm not towing I dont need to use the tachograph so limiting it doesn't seem right
No legal requirement for a speed limiter on a B category vehicleEU tacho regs - I hope you are recording all the work when not towing for UK domestic regs as that will also count as 'other work' for the EU regs
CAVEAT - that does not include PRIVATE driving but be careful as commercially driving from point A to point B and then 'clocking off' to drive privately back from B to A will not count - that is still commercial driving
They've allowed 6 months where they're not prosecuting to allow us to comply
I don't do any other work , even when I'm not towing I use the tachograph and stick to the 4/2 hours and required breaks, it'd be a right pita to keep records without using the tachograph
I have a defender as well and seriously thought about putting a tachograph in it but I couldn't face towing 400 miles with it
I thought about a newer 110 high capacity pickup and trailer but I'm not sure I'd fancy driving it any distance
I'm using an iveco daily pickup and 3.5t trailer , it tows really well even fully loaded , I wouldn't want to spend a packet on a 110 to find it terrified me every time I took it out.
It's going to cost me another £72 for the application now as I'm under the 9 week time it takes them to set the licence up.
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