The ultimate Q-Cars?
Discussion
jamieboy said:
How about a Volvo 440 Turbo? Horrible to look at, nasty to drive, but much, much quicker than people expect. Note - that's quicker, not quick.
L100NYY said:
Lancia Thema 8.32, Ferrari 3.2 V8 engine...0-60mph in 5.2 secs iirc?
I really like these, but I'm pretty sure it was based on the 3.0 litre from the 308 - I think 8.32 was 8 cylinders 32 valves.
0-60 in 5.2 sounds too quick - over a second quicker than the 308 - but I'll let justayellowbadge correct one or the other of us.
Indeed you are correct, it was in fact the 308 and not the 328 engine. I only said it was to test who was awake today!
Alright then perhaps I just had a senior moment, seem to be having a lot of those lately! As for the 0-60, I too thought that 5.2 secs sounded too quick but I went by some road test figures that I came across, which I reckon are a wee bit optimistic!
Edited to add that it actually says 7.2secs. Doh, me not stooopid!
>> Edited by L100NYY on Thursday 1st December 13:37
900T-R said:Excellent.
It also says that over the course of three years, the guy that built it went through 40,000 Dutch guilders (£13K ish) and six girlfriends!
A real labour of love then. 
I think this car has to qualify for "Ultimate Sleeper", surely?
Having said that, wasn't there a Renault 4 van on eBay a while back that was basically a rebodied Esprit? That sounds a laugh too.
pentoman said:Granted, not these days. However in the early 90's Subarus were virtually unheard-of outside the farming community and had a reputation as being reliable, yet dull, on-off roaders. The Impreza Turbo shattered the mould and for a few glorious years was a real Q-car.
It wouldn't exactly be a surprise to see a fast Subaru
Sadly it is now a victim of its own success, but that is another story.
Ribol said:
Mercedes 450 SEL 6.9, long time ago but it was a great car, very underated at the time.
It didn't have too many electronic gizmos but it did have a dirty great V8 engine that shifted its bulk at an alarming rate for such a big car. If I could buy any new saloon car ever made it would be one of those.
Call off the dogs - this one does it for me. Just remember this was the S55AMG and Matbach of its time all rolled into one, with the price tag to match; new in 1975, MBUK rushed you a cool £23k for one of these babies......
pentoman said:
It wouldn't exactly be a surprise to see a fast Subaru, BMW or even Jag so I don't think any of these are Q-cars. I like the dolomite sprint thingy, the Lancia and maybe a old old shape Audi S6 plus with the 32v 4.2 V8
Bet noone knew those existed!
Yep,
Buts that's 'cause I have one of these....
[/URL] 280 BHP 300Ft/lb 0-60 5 secs 160mph
(4wd) >> Edited by Fat Audi 80 on Thursday 1st December 14:12
is all i have to say about that , she was a hoot to drive
Ribol said:
For me a Q car is one that surprises me when it disappears up the road or when I drive it. Cars like the Lotus Carlton can be spotted from any angle as being more than the rep version. The Vantage version of an Aston is no more a Q car than an Aston is.
The Lotus Carlton is very restrained on bodywork and looks mostly like a Gsi version.
As for you (presumably) thinking Im talking about the Vantage version of the Virage, well, that prooves my point about the Turbo'd Virage exactly!
DJC said:
For me a Q car is one that surprises me when it disappears up the road or when I drive it. Cars like the Lotus Carlton can be spotted from any angle as being more than the rep version. The Vantage version of an Aston is no more a Q car than an Aston is.
The Lotus Carlton is very restrained on bodywork and looks mostly like a Gsi version.
Yes, they are very similar to a Gsi - well, apart from the exterior that is.
Still like those RS2's, although they only out-accelerate an F1 to 30mph
and with the bodykit and large red Porsche Calipers hardly Q but still an estate
If your talking modified cars, then you can't really get more Q than the Fensport Corrola, really does look standard, but its done a 10.3sec 1/4 mile and has been offically timed at over 200mph.
and with the bodykit and large red Porsche Calipers hardly Q but still an estate
If your talking modified cars, then you can't really get more Q than the Fensport Corrola, really does look standard, but its done a 10.3sec 1/4 mile and has been offically timed at over 200mph.
pentoman said:
It wouldn't exactly be a surprise to see a fast Subaru, BMW or even Jag so I don't think any of these are Q-cars. I like the dolomite sprint thingy, the Lancia and maybe a old old shape Audi S6 plus with the 32v 4.2 V8
Bet noone knew those existed!
How much do you bet? I've driven one on quite a few occasions
Nose heavy, but go like stink. Thirsty as hell.
Best Q-Car I've seen recently was an early model Daewoo Saloon in fairly poor condition.
The owner had spent a lot of money & time transplanting Astra GTE engine, suspension etc. into it & then heavily tuning it. He described it as a "Sleeper" & built it with this sole intention.
Went like stink & must have been a hoot to drive.
The owner had spent a lot of money & time transplanting Astra GTE engine, suspension etc. into it & then heavily tuning it. He described it as a "Sleeper" & built it with this sole intention.
Went like stink & must have been a hoot to drive.
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