RE: The Rover V8 will burble again
Discussion
FortJefferson said:
The audi V8 is unneccessarily heavy
Why, what dose it weigh?
Actually, on further investigation, I was wrong - the new 4.2 5v from the new S4 weighs 195 kg (dry) which would make it about the same weight (maybe a touch heavier - depending on the weight of the ancilliaries) as the LS series engine... And the Audi V8 may be as compact as the LS series, but I couldn't find any complete measurements...
LexSport said:
And the Audi V8 may be as compact as the LS series, but I couldn't find any complete measurements...
That is remarkable short!
I wonder what the width is like though? Quad Overhead cam would, I'd imagine, make for quite a wide engine?
Certainly Audi have produced a remarkable package there - not that I'll switch allegiance from the almighty Chevy just yet though
Thanks for the amusing repartee boys.
Just been down to Austec Racing in Creawley to book my 500 in for a service and a few bits and bobs.................Mark Adams is there with a J-reg Sierra XR4x4 on the rolling road. I was about to say something suitably disparaging when I caught a glimpse of what was under the bonnet..........RV8, John Eales 4.8, huge air intake, ACT plenum etc. Making a genuine 275 on the RR, but also 350ft lbs of torque. Rear wheel drive, corvette gearbox etc.
14 grand he's shelled out over the years. Might be for sale, says the great tuning guru.
4-door griff anyone?
Just been down to Austec Racing in Creawley to book my 500 in for a service and a few bits and bobs.................Mark Adams is there with a J-reg Sierra XR4x4 on the rolling road. I was about to say something suitably disparaging when I caught a glimpse of what was under the bonnet..........RV8, John Eales 4.8, huge air intake, ACT plenum etc. Making a genuine 275 on the RR, but also 350ft lbs of torque. Rear wheel drive, corvette gearbox etc.
14 grand he's shelled out over the years. Might be for sale, says the great tuning guru.
4-door griff anyone?
Rowver V8 was a nice engine, but was ousted from the States by the Yank's development of thin wall casting techniques on the iron block engines, this brought their weight down a fair bit and made the more expensive lighter advantage of aluminium construction less appealing.
As for the RV8 over the years, it's been a good motor but versus the Chevy, which is the engine produced in the most numbers in the world (and still goes on), it wins mostly on lightness and little else. They seem far more expensive to tune and less reliable than their American counterparts.
As for the RV8 over the years, it's been a good motor but versus the Chevy, which is the engine produced in the most numbers in the world (and still goes on), it wins mostly on lightness and little else. They seem far more expensive to tune and less reliable than their American counterparts.
tallbloke said:
TVR SV8, Chimaera and Griff owners can breathe sighs of relief...
Oi! What about us RV8 engined Wedge owners??!!!!
TOO RIGHT ROGER
THE WEDGE WITH A TVR EXHAUST ON THE V8 ENGINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST SOUNDING ENGINES
ROLL ON THE BBWF 2006
>> Edited by Trickie Dickie on Friday 24th February 10:25
badgerracing said:
Anybody know any other open-top V8 bargains out there? (Chimeras and Stags are an obvious one I guess?)
TVR Wedges have full side impact protection and better top down aerodynamics for cruising with the side windows down than Chims in my opinion. Better prices too...
www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=5
tallbloke said:
Wedges . . . Better prices too...
www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=5
Damn right! Bargains really . . . 5k for a sound 350i . . . and bags of fun too.
I wonder if there will come new cars with the RV8 as a basis engine.
Miguel said:There is an article on an MG webpage somewhere that says this bollox about the 6R4 engine. The production engine shares NOTHING with the RV8.
I'd also read that the Metro 6R4's engine was Rover V8 based. Obviously, I did not think that they had any parts in common, but...
old64er said:
The original test mule metro with a chopped RV8 never saw the light of day.
The V64V engine was not related to the RV8 in any way, shape or form.
...not even cylinder block height or bore center spacing? Those are the only things I figured that the two engines might have in common. Just wondering...
David Wood, who designed the V64V had built a lot of BD engines and DFVs and wanted to use stuff that was proven. Cosworth supplied Valves, springs and guides as well as pistons from the DFV. The heads were also Cosworth castings based on the Mercedes 190 design.
SO...
In conclusion: NOT Rover V8, similar to Cosworth GA, but with DFV topend stuff!!!
vjj said:There can't be many of those. I wonder if that's the one I saw at the TVR factory in the early 90's? Gaffer would probably know.
a J-reg Sierra XR4x4 on the rolling road. I was about to say something suitably disparaging when I caught a glimpse of what was under the bonnet..........RV8, John Eales 4.8, huge air intake, ACT plenum etc. Making a genuine 275 on the RR, but also 350ft lbs of torque. Rear wheel drive, corvette gearbox etc.
dinkel said:
Is that so? I can hardly imagine . . . In T&SC and C&SC recent 507-articles didn't mention that, but I could be so wrong . . .
A couple of years ago Classic And Sportcar had a shoot out with various sports cars tested by John Surtees, the Chimaera was tested and John mentioned the BMW connection, he also owns a 507.
The BMW V8 timeline . . . I couldn't find Buick stuff . . . or a connection to Rover.
"1949: Die Entwicklung eines modernen Leichtmetall-V-Achtzylindermotors wird beschlossen und ausgeführt."
"The new Sedan - 502 / 501 - featured BMW's new light-metal 2.6 liter V-8, the most modern of its day and Germany's first eight since the War.
The 502, although available in sedan, coupe and cabriolet, was never produced in great numbers. The starting price of DM 17,800 (at a time when a teacher could earn DM 200-300 per month) might explain that. Later, the 502 got a new, big bore 3.2 liter V8."
RV8 stuff.
"1949: Die Entwicklung eines modernen Leichtmetall-V-Achtzylindermotors wird beschlossen und ausgeführt."
"The new Sedan - 502 / 501 - featured BMW's new light-metal 2.6 liter V-8, the most modern of its day and Germany's first eight since the War.
The 502, although available in sedan, coupe and cabriolet, was never produced in great numbers. The starting price of DM 17,800 (at a time when a teacher could earn DM 200-300 per month) might explain that. Later, the 502 got a new, big bore 3.2 liter V8."
RV8 stuff.
dinkel said:
Wedges . . . Better prices too...
www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=5
Damn right! Bargains really . . . 5k for a sound 350i . . . and bags of fun too.
I wonder if there will come new cars with the RV8 as a basis engine.
Here's hoping it's a TVR. It would seem a logical step. Independently british produced classic "british" engine (I know I know!)
dropped into a chassis already familiar with it...
Tried and tested formula...
well loved combination....
piper said:
The rv8 was not from a german company but a scandinavian company
THE RV8 was originally a BMW design and used in their 507 sports car of the 1950's, when BMW stopped using it, Buick copied it and this evolved into the RV8 as we know it today
I posted something about this ages ago, with a link, buggered if I can find it now though
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