Honda's 2015 engine
Discussion
First sounds of Honda's engine for 2015.
http://www.espn.co.uk/mclaren/motorsport/story/130...
Oh dear.
http://www.espn.co.uk/mclaren/motorsport/story/130...
Oh dear.
I'm hoping that clip is not representative - that it's neutered to avoid sharing secrets.
The engine sounds naff, but partly because the revs are not rising quickly like we're used to - the throttle "blips" are naturally boing to be less fierce, because it's turbo not NA, but I think I'd expect the engine to react more quickly than that - but if they did a "full beans" job, would it not give potential info to competitors if they could read into the frequency of the sound for e.g inertia and / or power?
The long rev is also lame, but no F1 car will be geared that long - surely? Again, this makes things sound a bit naff, a bit like the CVT Williams from (2003?).
There is also the question of where it's recorded from - almost certainly a Dyno room, and normally we're listening to the exhaust directly, dynos often pipe the exhaust straight out. Might make the turbo / exhaust noise ratio different (I hope).
TL;DR? Sounds lame.
The engine sounds naff, but partly because the revs are not rising quickly like we're used to - the throttle "blips" are naturally boing to be less fierce, because it's turbo not NA, but I think I'd expect the engine to react more quickly than that - but if they did a "full beans" job, would it not give potential info to competitors if they could read into the frequency of the sound for e.g inertia and / or power?
The long rev is also lame, but no F1 car will be geared that long - surely? Again, this makes things sound a bit naff, a bit like the CVT Williams from (2003?).
There is also the question of where it's recorded from - almost certainly a Dyno room, and normally we're listening to the exhaust directly, dynos often pipe the exhaust straight out. Might make the turbo / exhaust noise ratio different (I hope).
TL;DR? Sounds lame.
We've done this before... have a listen to these:
The problem is everyone expects the clips to sound like this : http://youtu.be/TjTcyZQEKtM but no on-board will sound like that, reality is that the on-board sounded like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWyX8bljznI
We don't know what a 2014+ engine is going to sound like from a static microphone. At best you can compare to on-boards but even that is in thin ice..
The problem is everyone expects the clips to sound like this : http://youtu.be/TjTcyZQEKtM but no on-board will sound like that, reality is that the on-board sounded like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWyX8bljznI
We don't know what a 2014+ engine is going to sound like from a static microphone. At best you can compare to on-boards but even that is in thin ice..
Scuffers said:
with respect, a 6 pot @ 15K is never going to sound like a V10 @ 20K (and that's not a patch on an V16!)
then add in a rotary muffler in the exhaust, no amount of dressing it up is going to help
with respect, V16s have been obsolete in F1 since 1951, V10s have been obsolete since 2006 or something.then add in a rotary muffler in the exhaust, no amount of dressing it up is going to help
ThatsWhatShe said:
Scuffers said:
with respect, a 6 pot @ 15K is never going to sound like a V10 @ 20K (and that's not a patch on an V16!)
then add in a rotary muffler in the exhaust, no amount of dressing it up is going to help
with respect, V16s have been obsolete in F1 since 1951, V10s have been obsolete since 2006 or something.then add in a rotary muffler in the exhaust, no amount of dressing it up is going to help
they still sounded awesome, or are you going to say that modern must sound like a dyson?
Errugh. Mincey little faggot balls.
See the below for real world;
1980's V6 Turbo revving at 0:37s
1980's V6 Turbo trackside blatting at 4:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQaYJ_SaC4
I mean, feck off and feed your own mum what she bred before I make you.
See the below for real world;
1980's V6 Turbo revving at 0:37s
1980's V6 Turbo trackside blatting at 4:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQaYJ_SaC4
I mean, feck off and feed your own mum what she bred before I make you.
dr_gn said:
I love it how people still cling to the belief that these things are miraculously going to sound like something other than a leaf blower when fitted to a car. Then again, I suppose many people have never heard a current F1 car other than on TV.
The point is we haven't heard them go round a track yet, all we've heard is them running in a dyno cell. Listen to the on-board in my earlier post, then listen to the outside video..
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