Ted's roundups
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I used to have time for him, but having just sat though all 4 test day roundups, he's an idiot!
the bit with the guy from Renault was just painfully bad, he really does not understand anything.
like the battery bit, 20Kg's to store 4MJ - well, is it just the battery that is 20Kg's (or is that including the inverters etc?)
the store itself is MORE than 4MJ, the reggs limit the MGU-K to 4MJ per lap, that does not mean that's the total capacity of the ES otherwise you would be robbing this 4MJ with the MGU-H, and also would mean you would need to recover 4MJ per lap every lap to be able to use it (I suspect that the ES is probably more like 6-8MJ)
4MJ is 1.111Kwh, why the need to resort to kettle references? - to put this in context, a Nissan Leaf has a 24Kwh battery that weighs some 300Kg's (with control systems and containment), so some 12.5KG/Kwh.
the list goes on, but you would think by now, somebody would have taken him to one side and taught him some basic maths/physics?
the bit with the guy from Renault was just painfully bad, he really does not understand anything.
like the battery bit, 20Kg's to store 4MJ - well, is it just the battery that is 20Kg's (or is that including the inverters etc?)
the store itself is MORE than 4MJ, the reggs limit the MGU-K to 4MJ per lap, that does not mean that's the total capacity of the ES otherwise you would be robbing this 4MJ with the MGU-H, and also would mean you would need to recover 4MJ per lap every lap to be able to use it (I suspect that the ES is probably more like 6-8MJ)
4MJ is 1.111Kwh, why the need to resort to kettle references? - to put this in context, a Nissan Leaf has a 24Kwh battery that weighs some 300Kg's (with control systems and containment), so some 12.5KG/Kwh.
the list goes on, but you would think by now, somebody would have taken him to one side and taught him some basic maths/physics?
I agree completely with your comments.
But if he could have achieved anything it would have been to help people like my wife who likes F1, but struggles with the latest technology, it is already a turn-off for her. However to sit with technical experts with nasal hair trimmers fans, bananas and bags of coffee just made her say "rubbish" and walk away.
The whole series seemed to lack program planning, thoughtful content and editing. It was a completely lost opportunity.
But if he could have achieved anything it would have been to help people like my wife who likes F1, but struggles with the latest technology, it is already a turn-off for her. However to sit with technical experts with nasal hair trimmers fans, bananas and bags of coffee just made her say "rubbish" and walk away.
The whole series seemed to lack program planning, thoughtful content and editing. It was a completely lost opportunity.
I don't have sky so don't know about Ted but I agree in principle. TV always seems to want to make everything relate-able to the average man in the street - this usually means comparing things to kettles, football pitches, Olympic swimming pools, or elephants. The average man is pretty clever - smart enough to realise that kettles make water hot and a battery in a car makes wheels go round - intelligent enough to be confused by this comparison.
So an F1 car is like half an elephant using 200 kettles to run at the speed of 50 Usain Bolts around a track the length of 45 football pitches in the time it takes half boil an egg.
So an F1 car is like half an elephant using 200 kettles to run at the speed of 50 Usain Bolts around a track the length of 45 football pitches in the time it takes half boil an egg.
The trouble is they have to dumb it down so much for the lowest common idiot viewer, it's hard to find a balance between F1 fanatic and the average joe.
I've got to admit, I use so many abbreviations and systems speak in a technical sense at work that I find it hard to actually explain what I do for a living to non techie non raf peeps.
I've got to admit, I use so many abbreviations and systems speak in a technical sense at work that I find it hard to actually explain what I do for a living to non techie non raf peeps.
johnfm said:
He's a tv presenter. He clearly has no engineering or science background and seems not to know much about the subject.
Surprised Sky don't find someone who can bridge the gap and present on engineering topics.
He's also a pilot (just a PPL). I suspect in media circles this is tantamount to "aerodynamicist" though.Surprised Sky don't find someone who can bridge the gap and present on engineering topics.
Before his move to SkySports I always thought of Ted as 'just the chap in the pits' and I was quite disappointed that he was taken on board.
However, since the move and the introduction of his post-race Notepad section I've become a fan!
I really like his behind the scenes work, he often gets to interact with drivers & personnel asking questions that we haven't heard already answered over & over.
He has also been in the right place at the right time to bring any result changes and reaction from ground zero, perhaps thanks to his recording schedule.
Unfortunately I have to agree that his recent feature with RenaultSports Remi about the new engines was terrible regarding the usage of household items and comparisons with bulbs etc
It had some interesting information, from Remi, but overall came across cobbled together to try and fill the lack of on-track activity, especially as a proper new rules feature is coming up in the near future.
As for wandering the paddock with the carrier bag afterwards - what was he thinking!?! Very, very odd!
However, since the move and the introduction of his post-race Notepad section I've become a fan!
I really like his behind the scenes work, he often gets to interact with drivers & personnel asking questions that we haven't heard already answered over & over.
He has also been in the right place at the right time to bring any result changes and reaction from ground zero, perhaps thanks to his recording schedule.
Unfortunately I have to agree that his recent feature with RenaultSports Remi about the new engines was terrible regarding the usage of household items and comparisons with bulbs etc
It had some interesting information, from Remi, but overall came across cobbled together to try and fill the lack of on-track activity, especially as a proper new rules feature is coming up in the near future.
As for wandering the paddock with the carrier bag afterwards - what was he thinking!?! Very, very odd!
Edited by CocoUK on Sunday 2nd February 13:42
The man comes across as an arrogant, dismissive and nonchalant idiot, his 'style' of presenting makes what is a great concept from Sky, painful to watch. Why does he have to be so unprofessional about it?! On the phone, carrying his lunch about, waffling on about when he starts work in the morning, talking over anyone he interviews that's not one of his favourite drivers, bloody awful TV with the odd 30 seconds of interesting driver interview (when they get a word in..) sparingly dotted about.
I also don't agree that the notebooks need to be dumbed down and intelligent engineers getting Ted's lunch waived around in front of them, in a pathetic and condescending attempt to trivialise technology that the sort of people who turn over to Sky F1 at 9pm at night to watch, already bloody understand! Maybe, instead of letting this buffoon loose in the pit lane, why not use the time the other presenters spend making stupid noises into a microphone and pissing about, to create some interesting info graphics and diagrams to reach the viewers that are less inclined to use the internet to do a little research for themselves.
Even more annoying is that this is the most interesting testing in a very long time and we're getting an hour a day of it, no track footage, full of boring s
t, and I'm paying for the pleasure! A real missed opportunity since I think the coverage has been excellent during the seasons so far... If, as they say, they want to get in front of the new generation X (or Z, or what ever letter were on now) and get all over the social internets, they need to understand their demographics a lot better - new "casual" fans aren't turning on to see Egoman waive a Banana around the back of a pit garage like a tt. I'd rather listen to EJ!
I also don't agree that the notebooks need to be dumbed down and intelligent engineers getting Ted's lunch waived around in front of them, in a pathetic and condescending attempt to trivialise technology that the sort of people who turn over to Sky F1 at 9pm at night to watch, already bloody understand! Maybe, instead of letting this buffoon loose in the pit lane, why not use the time the other presenters spend making stupid noises into a microphone and pissing about, to create some interesting info graphics and diagrams to reach the viewers that are less inclined to use the internet to do a little research for themselves.
Even more annoying is that this is the most interesting testing in a very long time and we're getting an hour a day of it, no track footage, full of boring s
t, and I'm paying for the pleasure! A real missed opportunity since I think the coverage has been excellent during the seasons so far... If, as they say, they want to get in front of the new generation X (or Z, or what ever letter were on now) and get all over the social internets, they need to understand their demographics a lot better - new "casual" fans aren't turning on to see Egoman waive a Banana around the back of a pit garage like a tt. I'd rather listen to EJ!PW said:
If you don't like it, don't watch. You aren't forced to, and it is not as if there aren't dozens of other sources for technical information you could go to.
I want to watch, it's the biggest tech and regulation shake up I've ever seen in F1 and it's the only coverage Sky are offering. I pay for the channel, I have no complaints other than this one, which I'm voicing on a thread created for the purpose of discussing said paid coverage.Even with limited resources thrown at it, the coverage of the testing could be MUCH better. You're welcome to your opinion too, I just hope you don't work for Sky F1!
He had an undue air of self importance on the BBC which got hugely worse when sky gave him more air time. It would be interesting to hear any insiders opinion of what the pit lane make of him, it looks like Christian Horner can hardly hold back the contempt everytime he speaks with the guy.
F355GTS said:
my view is it perhaps could have been done better but overall I enjoyed it and found it useful, as said the last one was particularly good.
I agree. I like his style of presenting. I would love Gary Anderson to join the team to cover off the tech parts. Someone on here suggested Anderson was the laughing stock of the entire paddock. I checked with a respected journo acquaintance of mine and he suggested that was not true at all. But I am sure some members of the paddock, whose designs he may have critiqued, are clearly not going to be his biggest fans.PW said:
I don't think you can really justify hiring someone full time, flying them round the world and covering their expenses just to give a few mins of something slightly more in depth than Ted does.
Ted is a pitlane reporter, his job is to speak to people during and post session in the pits and relay that information, not explain and analyse engineering in depth.
The notebook is an addition to his main role, he's not doing it because he is an expert tech analyst, he's doing it because he is the most suitable of Sky's presenters for the role.
He does attempt to explain some things, presumably, not being an engineer, he explains them how he understands it, which it is fair to assume is in a way that most people without much engineering knowledge would understand it too. Perfect for a 5 min segment for a broad TV audience.
If you don't like it, don't watch. You aren't forced to, and it is not as if there aren't dozens of other sources for technical information you could go to.
The trouble is teds noyebook isn't really aimed at us, more for people who have no idea about the tech side so he dumbs it down, a bit too far in most cases but they have to provide for the lowest common denominator in the audiance.Ted is a pitlane reporter, his job is to speak to people during and post session in the pits and relay that information, not explain and analyse engineering in depth.
The notebook is an addition to his main role, he's not doing it because he is an expert tech analyst, he's doing it because he is the most suitable of Sky's presenters for the role.
He does attempt to explain some things, presumably, not being an engineer, he explains them how he understands it, which it is fair to assume is in a way that most people without much engineering knowledge would understand it too. Perfect for a 5 min segment for a broad TV audience.
If you don't like it, don't watch. You aren't forced to, and it is not as if there aren't dozens of other sources for technical information you could go to.
Scuffers said:
I used to have time for him, but having just sat though all 4 test day roundups, he's an idiot!
the bit with the guy from Renault was just painfully bad, he really does not understand anything.
like the battery bit, 20Kg's to store 4MJ - well, is it just the battery that is 20Kg's (or is that including the inverters etc?)
the store itself is MORE than 4MJ, the reggs limit the MGU-K to 4MJ per lap, that does not mean that's the total capacity of the ES otherwise you would be robbing this 4MJ with the MGU-H, and also would mean you would need to recover 4MJ per lap every lap to be able to use it (I suspect that the ES is probably more like 6-8MJ)
4MJ is 1.111Kwh, why the need to resort to kettle references? - to put this in context, a Nissan Leaf has a 24Kwh battery that weighs some 300Kg's (with control systems and containment), so some 12.5KG/Kwh.
the list goes on, but you would think by now, somebody would have taken him to one side and taught him some basic maths/physics?
Nah, sorry, you've lost me. Didn't understand a word of that...... Dumped Physics in the 3rd year. Does it mean the Maurussia will explode into a trillion pieces by lap 12? the bit with the guy from Renault was just painfully bad, he really does not understand anything.
like the battery bit, 20Kg's to store 4MJ - well, is it just the battery that is 20Kg's (or is that including the inverters etc?)
the store itself is MORE than 4MJ, the reggs limit the MGU-K to 4MJ per lap, that does not mean that's the total capacity of the ES otherwise you would be robbing this 4MJ with the MGU-H, and also would mean you would need to recover 4MJ per lap every lap to be able to use it (I suspect that the ES is probably more like 6-8MJ)
4MJ is 1.111Kwh, why the need to resort to kettle references? - to put this in context, a Nissan Leaf has a 24Kwh battery that weighs some 300Kg's (with control systems and containment), so some 12.5KG/Kwh.
the list goes on, but you would think by now, somebody would have taken him to one side and taught him some basic maths/physics?
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